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To: danamco; curiosity
“The old_tired _fart showed me a memo posted on scribd with the uber lib Tribe’s opinion!

Now here’s another scribd’s posting of McPain’s B.C., see link!!

If you cans show me another B.C., maybe we then can talk to on another!!!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9934044/John-McCain-Birth-Certificate";

This is the typical ploy of people who don't actually have an argument. They simply write off information by association. In this case, deliberately dishonest association, for if you read to see Tribe's name on it, you also saw Ted Olson's name.

You see, out here in reality that's how things often work. When a man like John McCain wants to get a competent opinion on a subject that idiots will judge solely from the perspective of their unthinking political blinders, he will often get a recognized expert on both the left and the right. If they concur in their opinion, thinking people pretty much accept it. Nobody really cares what the idiots think after that.

And your birth certificate has been credibly tabbed as a forgery long ago.

150 posted on 05/04/2010 5:10:59 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: tired_old_conservative
And your birth certificate has been credibly tabbed as a forgery long ago.

And so has your dear leader's also been, the one from the illegal alien and usurper. BTW., that is NOT my B.C. I had to show my REAL B.C. for the American Embassy in Cph in 1981. You showed me something from the "trustworthy" scribd, so I found another thing posted on scribd!!!

If you have seen McCain's REAL B.C. could you show it to me, please???

156 posted on 05/05/2010 1:15:20 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: tired_old_conservative

There seems to be different legal opinions, and here is one that differs from yours:


The analysis, by Prof. Gabriel J. Chin, focused on a 1937 law that has been largely overlooked in the debate over Mr. McCain’s eligibility to be president. The law conferred citizenship on children of American parents born in the Canal Zone after 1904, and it made John McCain a citizen just before his first birthday. But the law came too late, Professor Chin argued, to make Mr. McCain a natural-born citizen.

“It’s preposterous that a technicality like this can make a difference in an advanced democracy,” Professor Chin said. “But this is the constitutional text that we have.”

Several legal experts said that Professor Chin’s analysis was careful and plausible. But they added that nothing was very likely to follow from it.

“No court will get close to it, and everyone else is on board, so there’s a constitutional consensus, the merits of arguments such as this one aside,” said Peter J. Spiro, an authority on the law of citizenship at Temple University.

Mr. McCain has dismissed any suggestion that he does not meet the citizenship test.

In April, the Senate approved a nonbinding resolution declaring that Mr. McCain is eligible to be president. Its sponsors said the nation’s founders would have never intended to deny the presidency to the offspring of military personnel stationed out of the country.

A lawsuit challenging Mr. McCain’s qualifications is pending in the Federal District Court in Concord, N.H.

There are, Professor Chin argued in his analysis, only two ways to become a natural-born citizen. One, specified in the Constitution, is to be born in the United States. The other way is to be covered by a law enacted by Congress at the time of one’s birth.

Professor Chin wrote that simply being born in the Canal Zone did not satisfy the 14th Amendment, which says that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”

A series of early-20th-century decisions known as the Insular Cases, he wrote, ruled that unincorporated territories acquired by the United States were not part of the nation for constitutional purposes. The Insular Cases did not directly address the Canal Zone. But the zone was generally considered an unincorporated territory before it was returned to Panama in 1999, and some people born in the Canal Zone when it was under American jurisdiction have been deported from the United States or convicted of being here illegally.

The second way Mr. McCain could have, and ultimately did, become a citizen was by statute, Professor Chin wrote. In Rogers v. Bellei in 1971, the Supreme Court said Congress had broad authority to decide whether and when children born to American citizens abroad are citizens.

At the time of Mr. McCain’s birth, the relevant law granted citizenship to any child born to an American parent “out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States.” Professor Chin said the term “limits and jurisdiction” left a crucial gap. The Canal Zone was beyond the limits of the United States but not beyond its jurisdiction, and thus the law did not apply to Mr. McCain.

In 1937, Congress addressed the problem, enacting a law that granted citizenship to people born in the Canal Zone after 1904. That made Mr. McCain a citizen, but not one who was naturally born, Professor Chin said, because the citizenship was conferred after his birth.

In his paper and in an interview, Professor Chin, a registered Democrat, said he had no political motive in raising the question.

http://www.law.arizona.edu/Faculty/getprofile.cfm?facultyid=147


158 posted on 05/05/2010 1:58:32 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: tired_old_conservative

“And your birth certificate has been credibly tabbed as a forgery long ago.”


Question:

Are all of these notarized documents false or where have they been debunked???

http://astrodynamics.net/blogstuff/McCainBC.pdf

http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=1911&mn=80609&pt=msg&mid=6682937

Then after reading all this it also comes to to what Clarence Thomas said recently....EVASIVE on the issue, isn’t that the truth???

http://www.citizensforaconstitutionalrepublic.com/Zahn4-17-10.html


171 posted on 05/05/2010 11:57:06 AM PDT by danamco (")
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