Posted on 04/29/2010 10:38:21 AM PDT by AJKauf
Open carry advocates, as a gun rights subgroup, are the continuing negligent political discharge of the shooting community. Their disastrous nationwide campaign to normalize the open carrying of firearms alienates Americans from coast to coast, even among those who champion the concealed carry of weapons.
You only need to look at examples of the media incompetence of these groups in the past year to understand how this theoretically pro-gun movement has managed to cause the public to recoil in horror and actually set the movement back on its heels. It is enough to make you wonder if the group isn’t the operation that “Crash the Tea Party” wanted to be, executed by the otherwise inept anti-gun harpies.
Other than small-scale displays primarily consumed by the local news, the open carry movement is known to most people for precisely two awkward public displays: an August 17, 2009, protest in Phoenix and one this past Sunday on the Potomac’s Virginia shores....
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>Have you looked at his home page?
His Freeper profile page?
“You need to figure out what that means instead of trying to weasel your way around to supporting gun control.”
You conclude that anyone who advocates discretion and common sense thinks it must be legislated. Helmets and seatbelts are good ideas that make bad laws. Jumping to the conclusion that any problem or criticism must automatically be solved with a law is a hysterical, emotional liberal response; yours, not mine.
Common sense is that peaceable people carrying firearms, as it is their Right to do so, don't need your fear mongering.
When you start off on the wrong foot, you won't get very far.
“don’t need your fear mongering.”
I apologize. I didn’t mean to frighten you.
Run along now and see if you can't find some more VPC talking points to bring up...
Yes
“What do I have to be frightened of? I carry a gun.”
And sleep with a light on?
Open. Concealed. Long arm or pistol. Full auto or single shot. Blade, firearm, cudgel...
It's none of your damn business. Certainly none of the governments.
I didn’t until you asked. But what about it, specifically, are you referring to?
I find it interesting that on his home page he comments about being an advocate for CCW, but on this thread he’s engaging in fear-mongering (IMHO) regarding the issue of carrying weapons.
>I find it interesting that on his home page he comments about being an advocate for CCW, but on this thread he’s engaging in fear-mongering (IMHO) regarding the issue of carrying weapons.
Yes, several contradictions like that do stand out.
The progression of posts #109, #125, #127, #136, and culminating in #138 shows someone who is unwilling to engage in an honest intellectual debate. Note how the subtext of the ‘child molester’ in #109 is [quite] open to interpretation as stalking the child as a jungle cat would some feeble and helpless prey; yet when that is addressed by me in my reply he says, truthfully, that he never actually specifically said that... but in that case he undermines his own argument and thusly put ‘in check’ “throws the table to the ground” yelling ‘I hate this game’ in post #138. (That’s the closest analogy I could think of.)
It also strikes me that the advocacy of CCW is not the same as the advocacy for liberty. Many states have CCW licenses/permits and it could in some ways bee seen as a “badge of elitism” for someone to have a CCW-permit... in such hypothetical environment would it be unreasonable to suppose that ‘official force’ [police, army, etc] would be required to always open-carry thereby granting an even greater distinction to the CCW holders? NJ, for example, has CCW permits... technically.
{I’m including him in the ping as a matter of [undeserved] courtesy; and so I cannot be accused of ‘slander’ or ‘talking behind his back’... after all, if it’s to his face it’s merely insulting [because he then has a chance to respond and defend his reputation].}
I understand.
Very well written. Some CCW holders do see it as a merit badge... such as virtually everyone who has one in NYC. It is an elitism thing in many cases.
Mr. Shark, You really admit writing this stuff.... when sober?
>Mr. Shark, You really admit writing this stuff.... when sober?
How is it wrong?
I believe that the shown progression DOES show you to be unwilling to actually debate the issue; especially when assumptions are questioned.
How is your “you’re zotted” post in #138 NOT the intellectual equivalent of “throwing the board on the ground”?
And yes, I did/do find it offensive that you belittled both my intelligence and my earnestness with your comment that “I never argue with little people who just want to argue and drag you down to their level.”
I will admit that I like debate; and I have noted that some people take that as “being argumentative.” However, I find ‘little people’ and ‘drag you down’ to be offensive, and somewhat personal, attacks.
So, let me ask, do you admit to writing that while sober?
Spot on, MB.
Wild Bill Hickok's death. Noted lawman, scout and gambler,while armed, was shot by an disgruntled gambler. WB’s gun nor his reputation didn't “scare” his murderer.
BTW Despite the Hollywood image, most gunfights weren't two gunfighters staring down each other in the town street. They were, quit frankly ambushes and not “fair fights”
Open Carry Advocates: Shooting Themselves in the Foot
Sunday, May 02, 2010 6:33:00 PM · 158 of 158
RedMonqey to CHICAGOFARMER
not a single officer was killed with his own firearm in 2009
Narrowed down to just the year “2009” you maybe correct but there is an infamous copcam video where an Texas lawman was over powered and shot dead by his own firearm by a punk in a carload of drug smugglers he just pulled over..... just saying..
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The problem I had with your review was, you used the word “many”. you got to be careful what you writean opinion when it’s not based on fact.
I have several tapes were officers were shot with their own Firearm.but it’s not “many”.
Careful what you say, or you will sound like you are taking thee anti-gun view.
Chicago farmer
Graduate of federal state and local police training. Him him him him him
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