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To: Lady Jag

Here is a link to a copy of a Hawaii Long Form, original birth certificate. http://bp2.blogger.com/_Pa2xrvJ7xpA/SGhdwbdXc-I/AAAAAAAAACA/wzwObxc8fjw/s1600-h/scan0001.jpg

Can anyone tell me what additional information is on the long form that is relevant to eligibility to becoming President of the United States? I am mystified as to what additional information people think is going to disqualify Obama if his long form Certificate is released.

Also original, paper birth certificates are much easier to alter and forge than the computerized modern Certifications of Live Birth that many states now issue. Federal standards have been established for birth certificates to be accepted for passport purposes. Those standards require them to be printed on what is called “safety paper” which can’t be tampered with or altered much like modern money is much, much harder to counterfeit than money from earlier times.
The US Constitution requires two pieces of information that can be found on a birth document: place of birth and date of birth. If a document is official and the state verifies it, the candidate should be good to go.


84 posted on 04/28/2010 11:19:37 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
The US Constitution requires two pieces of information that can be found on a birth document: place of birth and date of birth. If a document is official and the state verifies it, the candidate should be good to go.

Your opinion. The Constitution requires that in order to be eligible to the office of President, a person must be a natural born citizen. The long form contains information about the birthplace of the parents, 7c and 10c on the version you lined. If they were born in the US, they they were most likely citizens, if not, they might not have been at the time of birth and further documentation would be required to determine their citizenship at the time of birth. The long form also contains fields which can be filled in a variety of ways, some of which point to a *possible* fraudulent filing, such as 4a, all 5x fields, 6a and 6b (which could be blank) ,11a and 11b. Since there is *some* evidence pointing to an non-Hawaiian birth, those indicators would carry some weight towards requiring some additional verification.

BTW, the state has not verified any document. And they have made no statements at all in court, under oath. Just press releases.

106 posted on 04/28/2010 5:02:09 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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