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Gun lobby believes it can gain more ground for owners(VA)
timesdispatch.com ^ | 26 April, 2010 | Jim Nolan

Posted on 04/27/2010 5:02:38 AM PDT by marktwain

Philip Van Cleave wants every Virginian who has a permit to carry a concealed handgun into a bar to be able to have a drink - or he wants no gun carrier to be able to drink.

That's the choice that Van Cleave, the leader of the pro-gun Virginia Citizens Defense League, wants to offer state lawmakers next year when the General Assembly reconvenes.

He said he is going to find a legislator to submit two bills to the body representing both positions.

His aim is to force lawmakers to expand the rights of concealed-handgun owners in bars or rescind the current exception that allows law-enforcement officers and commonwealth's attorneys to carry concealed weapons and consume alcohol.

"We're not allowed to drink, but they can," Van Cleave said. "That's two classes of citizens."

The proposal comes just days after Gov. Bob McDonnell, a Republican, signed into law a bill repealing the state's long-standing ban on holders of concealed-weapons permits carrying hidden guns into restaurants that serve alcohol. Permit holders will be allowed to enter with a firearm as long as they do not drink alcohol.

The law, which takes effect July 1, was a significant victory for the state's gun owners and the defense league, which had worked for 13 years on the issue.

"We've been fighting to get our rights back," Van Cleave told a gathering last Monday at the Second Amendment March in Washington.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; opencarry; va
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To: TChris
whatever standard he likes in deciding who may or may not enter his property

Underwear? What may be in their pocket?

There is a difference between what the law says and what is plausible to enforce.
41 posted on 04/27/2010 5:52:50 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA
If I have 2 drinks, I can still juggle 3 balls.....heck, 4 balls. If this is the case, why shouldn't I be able to carry a gun?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Try that argument when you are behind the wheel of a vehicle. As I stated, it's a safety issue. You may be mellow when drinking, but what about the guy next to you?

42 posted on 04/28/2010 1:18:57 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Sarajevo
You may be mellow when drinking, but what about the guy next to you?

WTH does that mean?
43 posted on 04/28/2010 11:36:28 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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