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Gun lobby believes it can gain more ground for owners(VA)
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| 26 April, 2010
| Jim Nolan
Posted on 04/27/2010 5:02:38 AM PDT by marktwain
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We have been gradually deprived of our rights under the banner of ""rrogressivism" for a hundred years.
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:02:38 AM PDT
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
“rescind the current exception that allows law-enforcement officers and commonwealth’s attorneys to carry concealed weapons and consume alcohol”
I vote for rescinding the exception. And I belong to the VCDL. We all know that guns and alcohol do NOT mix; I don’t care who you are.
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:11:17 AM PDT
by
tgusa
(Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
To: tgusa
We all know that guns and alcohol do NOT mix; I dont care who you are.Agreed.
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:24:45 AM PDT
by
Sarajevo
(You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
To: marktwain
From a purely political tactics perspective, mixing guns and alcohol is a loser for 2d amendment advocates.
The reality is that alcohol is the #1 correlation with gun problems ... and the #1 negative experience most people have with those with a gun.
Of course, alcohol is also the #1 correlation with knife fights and fist fights and domestic violence and swimming and boating incidents and snowmobile incidents and car crashes and falling down the stairs and similar accidents in the home.
To: tgusa
We all know no such thing. All legally armed citizens that are not teetotalers have guns and alcohol in their homes and, most likely drink. I drink as I will with a gun on my hip.
Please carefully speak only for your self.
As to your membership, pffft; the conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:29:48 AM PDT
by
dhuffman@awod.com
(The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
To: tgusa
I vote for rescinding the exception. And I belong to the VCDL. We all know that guns and alcohol do NOT mix; I dont care who you are. So, once again it will be safe to hold up your local saloon and rob the patrons. < /thugthought >
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:38:06 AM PDT
by
JimRed
(To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
To: marktwain
I see a distinction between having a couple of beers or glasses of wine in a restaurant and carrying and heavily drinking in a bar.
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:38:13 AM PDT
by
ontap
To: tgusa; Sarajevo
We all know that guns and alcohol do NOT mix; I dont care who you are. I fail to see your zero-tolerance argument. So I choose to have ONE beer with my dinner and now I'm either a criminal, or unable to defend myself?
It's another one of the "blood in the streets" BS argument we hear over and over. Look to the numerous other states with NO prohibition on consuming alcohol and possessing firearms, such as Pennsylvania (or even New York, though there is a bill in the legislature).
We all know that gunowners are the most responsible civilians around. If you can't trust them to make responsible decisions about how much is too much when carrying, then why 'allow' them the right at all under your tyrannical state?
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:40:47 AM PDT
by
Dan Nunn
(Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
To: ontap
I see a distinction between having a couple of beers or glasses of wine in a restaurant and carrying and heavily drinking in a bar. So do I, and I wish to leave it up to the responsibility of the firearm owner to make that decision. So far, in the states where consuming alcohol doesn't preclude you from your 2nd Amendment right, we haven't had problems.
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:42:33 AM PDT
by
Dan Nunn
(Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
To: Dan Nunn
Even one beer slows your reaction time and reduces your accuracy.
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:44:14 AM PDT
by
ColdWater
("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
To: ColdWater
Even one beer slows your reaction time and reduces your accuracy. And? Thus, we should revoke your right to carry after that one beer?
Let us not forget that most crimes where the victim has a gun are stopped without firing a shot.
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:47:13 AM PDT
by
Dan Nunn
(Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
To: Dan Nunn
That will work just fine for the carriers who nice law abiding citizens...not so much for the Kooks among us who can’t hold their alcohol!!!
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:48:20 AM PDT
by
ontap
To: Dan Nunn
Even one beer slows your reaction time and reduces your accuracy.
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:50:39 AM PDT
by
ColdWater
("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
To: marktwain
Guns and Alcohol don’t mix saying that are Cops allowed to drink after work knowing they carry a backup gun just curious?
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:51:10 AM PDT
by
Rappini
("Pro deo et Patria.)
To: ColdWater
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:51:17 AM PDT
by
Dan Nunn
(Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
To: ontap
Kooks among us who cant hold their alcohol!!! Blood in the streets. I see it all the time in Pennsylvania, where there is no law forbidding carrying a firearm (openly or concealed) after consuming alcohol.
Wait, I've never seen it here in Pennsylvania.
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:52:16 AM PDT
by
Dan Nunn
(Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
To: Dan Nunn
Make your point. Even one beer slows your reaction time and reduces your accuracy.
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posted on
04/27/2010 5:58:06 AM PDT
by
ColdWater
("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
To: tgusa; All
We all know that guns and alcohol do NOT mix; I dont care who you are.
Speak for yourself. There is a difference between having a drink an getting drunk. I am sick and tired of gun people who fall for the PC crap.
In PA, it is perfectly legal to carry in bars, and to drink while doing so. And guess what? There are no shootouts. If there were, you would have heard about it by now as PA has about 600,000 CCW holders.
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:58:51 AM PDT
by
Red in Blue PA
(Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
To: ColdWater; All
Even one beer slows your reaction time and reduces your accuracy.
Sleep deprivation is worse.
Should we ban people from carrying unless they get 8 hours a sleep every nighe?
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:59:48 AM PDT
by
Red in Blue PA
(Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
To: Dan Nunn
I do not know what’s worse.....people like Bloomberg serving up prevarications, or gun owners falling for them.
Sickens me every time.
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posted on
04/27/2010 7:00:50 AM PDT
by
Red in Blue PA
(Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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