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Police raid Gizmodo editor's home
Tech Fortune at CNN.com ^ | April 26, 2010 5:37 PM | Philip Elmer-DeWitt

Posted on 04/26/2010 4:17:17 PM PDT by Smogger

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To: LibertyRocks
No warrant shall issue for any item or items described in Section 1070 of the Evidence Code.

Section 1070 of the Evidence Code is as follows: 1070. (a) A publisher, editor, reporter, or other person connected with or employed upon a newspaper, magazine, or other periodical publication, or by a press association or wire service, or any person who has been so connected or employed, cannot be adjudged in contempt by a judicial, legislative, administrative body, or any other body having the power to issue subpoenas, for refusing to disclose, in any proceeding as defined in Section 901, the source of any information procured while so connected or employed for publication in a newspaper, magazine or other periodical publication, or for refusing to disclose any unpublished information obtained or prepared in gathering, receiving or processing of information for communication to the public

Nothing in there about immunity for reporters buying lost or stolen property.

201 posted on 04/27/2010 4:29:58 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: 1rudeboy
You were saying ...

You are an Applebot, even if you posted that on an IBM PC!

LOL ... nope, no IBM PC here... :-)

But..., you're not one of those "journalists" who wants that "get-out-of-jail-free card" for committing any crime known to mankind, in order to write an article about it -- are you? LOL ...

202 posted on 04/27/2010 4:30:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 1rudeboy
The rightful “owner” is the guy who left it at the bar, not the corporation he works for . . .

Somehow I don't think they called the guy and told him they found his phone at the bar. Otherwise, they'd have gotten away with it. LOL!

203 posted on 04/27/2010 4:32:10 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Star Traveler

Stop it right there: because that might lead to a “nuclear blueprint” analogy, and you can see where that leads . . . .


204 posted on 04/27/2010 4:32:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I’m waiting for the “constructive bailment” guy to show up again. That would’ve been humorous.


205 posted on 04/27/2010 4:33:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
You were saying ...

Don’t lose focus, either. The rightful “owner” is the guy who left it at the bar, not the corporation he works for . . . some people just don’t get it.

Well, that is a good point you've got there.

I'm not sure how "ownership" and being lost applies to a person who has been lent the device, temporarily (which the guy was lent the device temporarily). If that ends up legally changing ownership (per that law, anyway), then it's that guy (who lost it), who is the owner.

But, I'm not entirely sure about that. And actually, it doesn't make any difference the way I see it, because if you think the owner is one guy (or some company) and you're told they don't own it, then it's still a lost device and you still can't appropriate it for your own use, no matter what.

206 posted on 04/27/2010 4:35:20 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 1rudeboy

Remind me what that was about. Thanks.


207 posted on 04/27/2010 4:37:21 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Search this thread on that phrase... you’ll find it ... :-)


208 posted on 04/27/2010 4:38:53 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
It's a matter of agency. The prototype clearly belongs to Apple, but Apple entrusted it to some bozo who left it sitting on a barstool.

The fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter what stage of the production process the item is in, you can't call some 1-800 number located in Burkina Faso and then turn around and claim, "it's mine," when you know that it is not.

209 posted on 04/27/2010 4:39:49 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Very true... and good point...


210 posted on 04/27/2010 4:40:51 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Fur darned sure. The protection is actually for "sources" ~ which is the intent.

I guess the writer doesn't have to tell anybody who he paid the $5000 to ~ but who cares ~ it's the photos that bother Apple if not the cops.

211 posted on 04/27/2010 4:44:32 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: LibertyRocks

Wake up. Chicago is damaged goods. Flee for your very life from that place.


212 posted on 04/27/2010 4:47:22 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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Didn’t say a person owns property they find that was misplaced. What I said is based on the facts and the law, a charge of theft cannot be supported. Didn’t say it didn’t have to be returned, just that having possession does not always equal theft. If it did, someone finding a wallet and picked it up with the intention of returning it would also be guilty of theft.


213 posted on 04/27/2010 4:49:49 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Star Traveler
Not every year ~ every day!

I've been thinking of a new Sonata. I think I'll pick it up at the Hyundai lot tonight.

There, I've published it on the net so that means I'm not stealing that Hyundai!./s

214 posted on 04/27/2010 4:50:52 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: LibertyRocks
Gawker's lawyers think their shield law supercedes federal copyright laws.

Hmmm. More popcorn eh!

215 posted on 04/27/2010 4:52:32 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: muawiyah

I left a long time ago, but that’s not the point...


216 posted on 04/27/2010 4:56:25 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Star Traveler
That's a relief. I thought it was an old thread that I was a part of and then forgot.

I was wondering if I was getting a bit of what our favorite necro-thread guy was suffering from.

217 posted on 04/27/2010 4:56:26 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: muawiyah

Exactly... Popcorn will be a big necessity when this sees the inside of a courtroom! Should be very interesting to say the least.


218 posted on 04/27/2010 4:57:51 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: SeaHawkFan
You were saying ...

Didn’t say a person owns property they find that was misplaced. What I said is based on the facts and the law, a charge of theft cannot be supported.

Yes, it can be supported... the minute he sold it for $5,000 ... LOL ...


Didn’t say it didn’t have to be returned, just that having possession does not always equal theft. If it did, someone finding a wallet and picked it up with the intention of returning it would also be guilty of theft.

Selling lost property is theft (and it was sold for $5,000). And that can be applied to the person buying the lost property (and he bought it for $5,000).

If the original finder of the property had merely held onto it (and not done anything to appropriate the property for himself and/or sell it), then there wouldn't be a crime as it could be said that he was looking for the owner (of course, it would help to show that he was actually looking for the owner, like an ad in the paper, for example, a call to the police department to either have them hold it for whatever necessary time or so they could be made aware of the property).

BUT, that wasn't the case... and under California law, the seller committed a crime and the buyer committed a crime. I don't know if they've found the seller yet, though ... I'd lay real low if I were him ... LOL ...

219 posted on 04/27/2010 5:03:21 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: muawiyah

:-)


220 posted on 04/27/2010 5:10:04 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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