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To: avoth
You didn’t answer my question, but thanks anyway

Sure I did and supported it with facts.

So you’re happy with the current environment where you’re the moral absolutionist and everyone who questions your position is a relativist?

Without moral absolutes, there is chaos. That is what we see exhibited in the world around us when people abandon those norms.

Yes, I can see how it’s working.

Uganda Winning the Battle Against AIDS — Using Abstinence

20 posted on 04/21/2010 1:40:40 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

” Sure I did and supported it with facts.”

We’ll have to agree to disagree on this point.

“Without moral absolutes, there is chaos. That is what we see exhibited in the world around us when people abandon those norms. “

And who gets to decide what the moral absolutes are?


25 posted on 04/21/2010 2:37:12 PM PDT by avoth
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To: NYer

” Uganda Winning the Battle Against AIDS — Using Abstinence “

Oops. Missed this point. Uganda is not the US and what works in one environment with totally different societal norms will not work in another.

I have a 22 yo daughter. Do I want her to have pre-marital sex. No, and I hoped I raised her so that she wouldn’t want it either. But that’s all I can do. If, G-D forbid, she got pregnant, would I want her to keep the child (assuming it didn’t endanger her life)? Of course. And I would use any argument I could to get her to see that, and I would hope to temper that argument with respect for her and love for her as my daughter. But if she said that she was getting an abortion, would I throw her out of the house and forbid her from returning? Would I call her all kinds of names? Show her these pictures, etc.? I hope not.

It’s a life-altering situation any way you look at it, and I’d like to avoid it in the first place.


27 posted on 04/21/2010 2:44:04 PM PDT by avoth
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