Abortion, Again: Do Babies Feel Pain?

RW News ^ | April 20, 2010 | Melissa Clouthier

[avoth]

“So it may be that your state decides to be pro choice...or maybe pro life....Who knows? It may also be that if your state goes pro life and the state next to you goes pro choice, then women will just travel to that state for the abortion.

Neither the pro lifers or choice side will like it but that is how laws are made in a democracy.”

Thanks for the respectful debate.

[Emmett McCarthy]

Then don’t post your bullsh^t lies and I won’t have to clean your clock - just all all the other posters here have. That’s about the best way to avoid each other. Like many others here, I’m smarter than you - and we don’t suffer fools here.

[avoth]

“Then don’t post your bullsh^t lies and I won’t have to clean your clock - just all all the other posters here have. That’s about the best way to avoid each other. Like many others here, I’m smarter than you - and we don’t suffer fools here.”

Wow....I’m so impressed.

[DejaJude]

Although I’m a Conservative, I have no problem with abortion as long as I’m not paying for it for a bunch of reasons

I have known conservatives, and avoth, you are no conservative.

[avoth]

Yawn. Heard that line before.

[Emmett McCarthy]

Think the pro-choice movement is going to roll over and die?

The pro-life attitudes of the younger generation shows us that yes, in fact, the pro-abort crowd is going to roll over and die. I want to thank you for the back-up here too, sir!

[jhw61]

You can call youself a conservative all you want...your a CIN....Conservative in Name Only. Don’t tell me your Catholic too.

[Emmett McCarthy]

Go back to the kiddie pool, sonny.

[avoth]

like I would take any advice from someone like you.

Get real.

[avoth]

“You can call youself a conservative all you want...your a CIN....Conservative in Name Only. Don’t tell me your Catholic too.”

I guess I’m pretty lucky that I don’t give a d@mn what you think.

[Emmett McCarthy]

Fine - then shut up and get lost.

[jhw61]

A snippet from your first post on this thread....

“they’re backfiring and giving our enemies ammunition to use against us?”

“Our enemies”...your not on the conservative side in the slightest, you are the enemy to Pro-Life.

[Christian_Capitalist]

Is there some other way to deal with behavior that we find morally reprehensible because your current methods not only aren’t working, they’re backfiring and giving our enemies ammunition to use against us?

Avoth -- abortion kills an unborn child.

That means that it's just different from issues like marijuana usage or gambling or prostitution or any other issue which we might find "morally reprehensible", but on which Prohibition fails -- well, as badly as Prohibition usually fails, when both parties are voluntarily seeking to engage in a mutually-desired (albeit immoral), non-violent transaction.

Marijuana doesn't kill anyone, though it may deaden the soul. And the same could be said for the other "personal vices" I've mentioned, as well.

But with Abortion, killing someone is the whole point of the operation!
If a human being doesn't get killed, the abortion didn't get done.

[P-Marlowe]

Yes, you’ve convinced me. Bye.

IBTZ

[mlizzy]

The anti-abortion crowd only needs to keep repeating that abortion is the killing of a child that otherwise would be, and that any mother who proceeds with an abortion, that is not directly threatening her own life, will at some point in time be regretful of her decision if she has any conscious at all.

How can a mother forget her baby? She either asks forgiveness and eventually heals post-abortion, or she goes into denial regarding the aftermath of her child's bloodbath, becomes harsh, embittered and lifeless herself. While the lost child of abortion is cared for by God, the pain of abortion for its mother lasts her lifetime. In addition to the senseless loss of an innocent baby's life, that's why abortion must cease and desist. Abortion hurts women. (And it hurts men too!)

"Abortion Trauma and Child Abuse" by Theresa Karminski Burke, Ph.D., & David C. Reardon, Ph.D.

"...Her destructive thoughts were like starving rabid animals, hounding, scratching, and gnawing at her conscience. They left her feeling bewildered, feeling crazy, and ashamed. She desperately yearned to silence these dangerous beasts in her mind."

[avoth]

Take your own advice.

[avoth]

““Our enemies”...your not on the conservative side in the slightest, you are the enemy to Pro-Life.”

Thanks. I was having trouble getting to sleep and you’ve bored me.

[avoth]

I have no issue with anything you’ve written. If I read you correctly, your issue with my post is that you found the term “morally reprehensible” to be a poor choice of words to describe the behavior of the pro-choice crowd. And I don’t have a problem with that either.

Obviously, the point I was trying to make was lost.

[Emmett McCarthy]

Keep coming around with your tripe and keep getting your pathetic head handed to you, if you like. It can be fun for us squashing the stupid.