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To: Mr Rogers
For a troll, I sure have been here a long time.

Time here makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. Many outed trolls have been here since 1998.

When you go to court and argue he wasn’t born in the US, and offer no proof but ask the courts to find it for you, it gets tossed - as it should.

BS. Ever hear the legal term 'discovery'? The courts aren't tossing the cases by offering no proof, they are tossing them because of a court invented standing issue. The standing issue itself has long been argued as a constitutional conflict whereby "...both of constitutionally-derived rules and judicially-created gatekeeping ("prudential") rules." In other words if a court want to hear the merits of a case it loosens the standing requirement, but if it doesn't want to hear a case it uses standing to toss them without even hearing the merits. "Proof" has nothing to do with it - political agenda is the operative word.

This country is no where close to a genuine civil war...

So you say....what I've seen at tea parties and townhalls tells a different story. (Not to mention gun sales skyrocketing).

Nor have our elections been stopped or overcome.

Yeah I've heard of Scott Brown....have you heard the name Obama and ACORN? The answer to your above thesis is YET. Its well on its way which you are enabling at a rapid pace.

50 states, the Electoral College, Congress and the US Supreme Court are content that Obama is eligible

Really? Is that why AZ, FL, GA, IN, NH, and SC have now put out Bills Pending in State Legislatures Regarding Eligibility for the Presidency? That brings your total down to 44 which aren't exactly content as more bills are being drafted. Congress isn't 100% content, there is Bill Posey and H.R. 1503

I can think of several others who have openly agreed with the need for such a bill. Spin all you want, I would expect nothing less from a troll.

I don’t need someone sitting at a computer lecturing me on ‘real patriots’

Kudos to your past service. Too bad you've chosen not to honor it by undermining the constitution. You of all people should be challenging Obama, not defending him. SHAME ON YOU.

906 posted on 04/14/2010 7:16:08 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma

Calling a birther a legal loser isn’t being a troll. It is being historically accurate.

“Ever hear the legal term ‘discovery’?”

Yes. It doesn’t mean you go to court to discover if a crime has been committed. You are expected to have a case BEFORE you get to court, rather than develop it once you arrive.

“Discovery is contingent upon a party’s reasonable belief that he or she has a good cause of action or defense. A court will deny discovery if the party is using it as a fishing expedition to ascertain information for the purpose of starting an action or developing a defense. A court is responsible for protecting against the unreasonable investigation into a party’s affairs and must deny discovery if it is intended to annoy, embarrass, oppress, or injure the parties or the witnesses who will be subject to it. A court will stop discovery when used in bad faith.”

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Discovery

“So you say....what I’ve seen at tea parties and townhalls tells a different story.”

You know someone at a Tea Party that advocates killing Democrats and their families? That is what a shooting civil war would entail - and no, I’ve seen NO SIGN of a desire to kill others at the tea parties I’ve attended in Tucson, nor at the town hall we forced Gabby Giffords to hold.

I strongly deny that the Tea Party movement is on the verge of shooting anyone.

FreeRepublic and other conservatives sites are planning on WINNING the next election. And no, Obama doesn’t get to cancel them. That is black-helicopter tin-foil talk.

“50 states, the Electoral College, Congress and the US Supreme Court are content that Obama is eligible

Really? Is that why AZ, FL, GA, IN, NH, and SC have now put out Bills Pending in State Legislatures Regarding Eligibility for the Presidency?”

Yes, my home state of Arizona is one of several considering tightening oversight - but Arizona and all the other states DID put him on the ballot, and the law requires them to refuse if they believe he isn’t qualified.

So yes, all 50 states said he was qualified. And Congress certified the election without a single dissent. And a bill was passed saying Obama was born in Hawaii without a single vote against.

I’m not defending Obama. I’m defending the Constitution, which provide Obama with due process ans set out how a presidential election is validated.


914 posted on 04/14/2010 7:31:36 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: conservativegramma
I could not agree with you more Gramma, a former soldier, very disgusting!

From the area I come from during five years of German occupation, we had only one word:!!

QUISLING!!!

946 posted on 04/14/2010 8:45:10 PM PDT by danamco (")
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