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To: Mr Rogers

<>“But he’s still a British subject per the British Nationality Act, isn’t he???”<>

<>No.<>

Oh really — here it is directly from from the Obama website itself [Factcheck]:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children:

“British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.

“In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.”

and more here:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/24/british-law-declares-obama-a-british-citizen/

[Warning: there are facts therein that may be harmful to your preconceived misconceptions and prefabricated dissemblings. Read at the risk of your Obama stimulus money]


659 posted on 04/14/2010 9:08:29 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

In 1964, Kenya gained its independence. The folks who were citizens of the UK via Kenya became Kenyan citizens. However, if they were dual citizens, with citizenship elsewhere (such as America), they had until the age of 21 to renounce all allegiance to the other country. Failing to do so, they would lose their citizenship in Kenya.

“A person who, upon the attainment of the age of twenty-one years, is a citizen of Kenya and also a citizen of some country other than Kenya shall, subject to subsection (7), cease to be a citizen of Kenya upon the specified date unless he has renounced his citizenship of that other country, taken the oath of allegiance and, in the case of a person who was born outside Kenya. made and registered such declaration of his intentions concerning residence as may be prescribed by or under an Act of Parliament.”

http://kenya.rcbowen.com/constitution/chap6.html#97

As I have pointed out and the courts have upheld, another country cannot ‘force’ you to be a citizen. They can declare anything they want, just as Putin could declare that all US citizens are automatically and until death citizens of Russia - which would, by your theory, make it impossible for anyone to be President since all Americans would also be Russians. And with no CINC, there would be no more military and Russia could take us over by fiat.

Yes, that is a stupid idea which is why courts do not support the idea that another country can force you to be a citizen (or subject, to use the old British term).

In Aug 1982, Barack Obama, having failed to renounce his US citizenship, lost dual citizenship in Kenya.

Again, every state, darn near every voter, the Electoral College and Congress and the Supreme Court all KNEW about Obama’s father, and NONE OF THEM considered it disqualifying. NONE. ZERO. ZILCH.

Only birther losers consider it an issue - and that is why birthers have a perfect record of LOSING every case that comes to a court.

Or have you not noticed that your side keeps losing? Every single time. You can waive the British Act of 1948 as much as you want, but it doesn’t change squat. Obama is not a citizen or subject of the UK. He is not a dual citizen of Kenya. And only LOSERS run around claiming otherwise...


664 posted on 04/14/2010 9:31:17 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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