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To: BP2

This may be tough for you to understand, but it is true: Obama’s father being Kenyan (or British) doesn’t make Obama ineligible.

Every person certifying him for the ballot KNEW about Obama’s father. The public knew. The Electoral College knew. Every member of Congress knew. The Supreme Court knew. All before Obama took office.

None raised an objection, so we must conclude that none of those believe Obama’s Dad being from Kenya stopped Obama from being a natural born citizen.

All the state officials, the general public, the Electoral College, Congress and the Supreme Court disagree with your interpretation of ‘natural born’. EVERYONE!

You don’t have to like it, but it is over. Obama’s Dad could have been from Mars. Doesn’t matter. Obama, if born in the US, is a natural born citizen according to everyone who has a say. You do not. Neither does Lakin.


217 posted on 04/13/2010 11:05:03 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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Is it just me or am I completely stupid? I don't know anything about military procedures but talking about proofs:

1) We know for sure that the BC he put on his website is fake and in any case not a true BC with doctors, hospital names etc..

2) We KNOW his name was Barry Saotoro - we have proof of that with his indonesian school and such and nowhere it says that he ever changed his name

If we take only these 2 facts - and these are facts - you already have an enough big case that we have no clue who the guy is!

Then, the problem is that no one judge wants to take the case but frankly, it seems very obvious to me that these 2 FACTS are enough to say that the guy is a fraud and that a clear investigation is needed to know who he is. But that's just me...
227 posted on 04/13/2010 11:11:06 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Obama’s father being Kenyan (or British) doesn’t make Obama ineligible.

Wrong -- unless, of course, you are Humpty Dumpty and the definition of "natural born citizen" can mean so many things to so many people at so many times in so many ways.

Every person certifying him for the ballot KNEW about Obama’s father. The public knew. The Electoral College knew. Every member of Congress knew. The Supreme Court knew. All before Obama took office.

Just because they knew and may not have done anything or said anything doesn't mean that their knowledge and inaction changes those words of the Constitution. Their choice to look the other way didn't change those words or the facts or the truth that is now coming out and haunting them daily and for good reason.

None raised an objection, so we must conclude that none of those believe Obama’s Dad being from Kenya stopped Obama from being a natural born citizen.

Oh -- so that is how you establish facts these days. So then if we just silence people and fill the other's heads with mush then we can all change history and the meaning of words so long established.

Well said, Humpty Dumpty.

249 posted on 04/13/2010 11:23:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Mr Rogers; BP2
All the state officials, the general public, the Electoral College, Congress and the Supreme Court disagree with your interpretation of ‘natural born’. EVERYONE!

Except for the 100 members of the Senate who signed McCain's SR511.

263 posted on 04/13/2010 11:29:38 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Mr Rogers; All

Every person certifying him for the ballot KNEW about Obama’s father. The public knew. The Electoral College knew. Every member of Congress knew. The Supreme Court knew. All before Obama took office.

Here's some perhaps controversial, yet serious & valid ponderings to your statements:

Have you ever try to publicly criticize* a Black man in America, not because of his skin color but because of his status as a Dual Citizen and ineligibility to hold Public Office which has a unique, yet Constitutionally-required Eligibility stipulation?

Have you ever try to publicly criticize* the first Black man in America EVER to have a serious shot at winning the Presidency because of his charisma and ability to read a TelePrompter?

Have you ever try to publicly criticize* a Black man in America, especially one utterly adored by the MSM, who in turn attacks others critical of this man, even though the MSM lacks such color-blind spectacles themselves?

* And when I say "publicly criticize", I don't mean from behind the relative safety of your keyboard, but out in PUBLIC, in FULL view, cameras on, knowing that WHATEVER you assert, no matter how TRUE, you will STILL be labeled as a RACIST by the MSM and allies of the man you criticize.

Lastly:

Did the Public FOCUS (with the aid of the the MSM and allies of the man you criticize) on his PLACE OF BIRTH (birth certificate) -OR- his loyalties, acculturation, and Framers' usage of "natural born citizen", versus a "citizen" of this and another NATION (as Chester Arthur SUCCESSFULLY pulled off more than 100 years before)?


When you can HONESTLY answer these questions, you'll have a better grasp as to what happened in America in 2008, leading into the Inauguration of Barack Hussein Obama (Sorry ... is it “okay” for America to utter his middle name yet?)

However, seemingly now that a growing portion of the population knows HOW question Obama's Eligibility in a legitimate manner — EVEN once the RACE CARD is dealt — we may have the answer in 2010 or 2011 that eluded us in 2008.


359 posted on 04/13/2010 12:38:43 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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