Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D
Well, see post 887, where you complained about my Wiki summary of a legal case by writing, “Wikipedia is NOT an accepted source on FR. Ever.”
I laughed at that, because it simply isn’t true. Like any other website, Wiki has both good points and bad.
However, since you didn’t like my Wiki link, I provided in post 890 a link to the court document for the case - not Wiki.
Thus, you can see for yourself is Wiki gave a false summary, or if it was accurate. Hint - it was accurate.
He could give it to several courts to satisfy the cases filed and THEY could/would authenticate it too.
There's no evidence of whether the initial report or current report is in error, but at least the myth ... I mean, story is consistent now.
Wiki lies and is a Soros outfit. You can trust them if you like. I know too much about them to do so.
If you don’t like the Wiki summary, you can read the case at the link I provided in post 890.
And since you are part of a movement that has lost every single case, I hate to think what YOU use for research. Maybe you should upgrade to Wiki...you need to change SOMETHING if you don’t want to keep losing!
Time here makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. Many outed trolls have been here since 1998.
When you go to court and argue he wasn’t born in the US, and offer no proof but ask the courts to find it for you, it gets tossed - as it should.
BS. Ever hear the legal term 'discovery'? The courts aren't tossing the cases by offering no proof, they are tossing them because of a court invented standing issue. The standing issue itself has long been argued as a constitutional conflict whereby "...both of constitutionally-derived rules and judicially-created gatekeeping ("prudential") rules." In other words if a court want to hear the merits of a case it loosens the standing requirement, but if it doesn't want to hear a case it uses standing to toss them without even hearing the merits. "Proof" has nothing to do with it - political agenda is the operative word.
This country is no where close to a genuine civil war...
So you say....what I've seen at tea parties and townhalls tells a different story. (Not to mention gun sales skyrocketing).
Nor have our elections been stopped or overcome.
Yeah I've heard of Scott Brown....have you heard the name Obama and ACORN? The answer to your above thesis is YET. Its well on its way which you are enabling at a rapid pace.
50 states, the Electoral College, Congress and the US Supreme Court are content that Obama is eligible
Really? Is that why AZ, FL, GA, IN, NH, and SC have now put out Bills Pending in State Legislatures Regarding Eligibility for the Presidency? That brings your total down to 44 which aren't exactly content as more bills are being drafted. Congress isn't 100% content, there is Bill Posey and H.R. 1503
I can think of several others who have openly agreed with the need for such a bill. Spin all you want, I would expect nothing less from a troll.
I don’t need someone sitting at a computer lecturing me on ‘real patriots’
Kudos to your past service. Too bad you've chosen not to honor it by undermining the constitution. You of all people should be challenging Obama, not defending him. SHAME ON YOU.
Only after you name a single president who had no solid proof of his place of birth and two foreign nationals for fathers like Obama. The circumstances dictate the necessity.
Sometimes Wiki lies. However, their footnotes ofter include links to original documents, some of which are hard to find if you just use a search engine. Their percentage of errors is much lower than the average birther legal brief...
Obama wasn’t 6. This is another part of the myth that only showed up after he ran for president. The Honolulu Advertiser reported that SAD married Soetoro in 1965. Obama was born in 1961, so he could have been adopted at age 4.
And I guess that you missed it when Wiki flat out lied about FR on their site. They lie more often than not.
Let’s not be too obvious. Curiosity thinks extreme measures are needed like mailing hard copies to everyone who requests one. That’s the only way!!
Good one. :-) That guy denies everything.
LOL!!!
Calling a birther a legal loser isn’t being a troll. It is being historically accurate.
“Ever hear the legal term ‘discovery’?”
Yes. It doesn’t mean you go to court to discover if a crime has been committed. You are expected to have a case BEFORE you get to court, rather than develop it once you arrive.
“Discovery is contingent upon a party’s reasonable belief that he or she has a good cause of action or defense. A court will deny discovery if the party is using it as a fishing expedition to ascertain information for the purpose of starting an action or developing a defense. A court is responsible for protecting against the unreasonable investigation into a party’s affairs and must deny discovery if it is intended to annoy, embarrass, oppress, or injure the parties or the witnesses who will be subject to it. A court will stop discovery when used in bad faith.”
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Discovery
“So you say....what I’ve seen at tea parties and townhalls tells a different story.”
You know someone at a Tea Party that advocates killing Democrats and their families? That is what a shooting civil war would entail - and no, I’ve seen NO SIGN of a desire to kill others at the tea parties I’ve attended in Tucson, nor at the town hall we forced Gabby Giffords to hold.
I strongly deny that the Tea Party movement is on the verge of shooting anyone.
FreeRepublic and other conservatives sites are planning on WINNING the next election. And no, Obama doesn’t get to cancel them. That is black-helicopter tin-foil talk.
“50 states, the Electoral College, Congress and the US Supreme Court are content that Obama is eligible
Really? Is that why AZ, FL, GA, IN, NH, and SC have now put out Bills Pending in State Legislatures Regarding Eligibility for the Presidency?”
Yes, my home state of Arizona is one of several considering tightening oversight - but Arizona and all the other states DID put him on the ballot, and the law requires them to refuse if they believe he isn’t qualified.
So yes, all 50 states said he was qualified. And Congress certified the election without a single dissent. And a bill was passed saying Obama was born in Hawaii without a single vote against.
I’m not defending Obama. I’m defending the Constitution, which provide Obama with due process ans set out how a presidential election is validated.
Wishful thinking!!!
If it was not for us CONSTITUTIONALISTS who in hell have YOU seen out there stir the pot to release any and all records including a valid birth certificate plus pointed out numerous time to you his none NBC status according to his fathers sperm and blood line and BNA???
Ummmmmm ... what??? Due process to validate an election?? More deep-end logic.
Ummmmmm ... what??? Due process to validate an election?? More deep-end logic.
“The Honolulu Advertiser reported that SAD married Soetoro in 1965. Obama was born in 1961, so he could have been adopted at age 4.”
He could have been adopted in the USA before 5. The claim was that he was adopted in Indonesia, where he moved when he was 6. Not ‘under 5’.
And as I’ve pointed out, NOTHING his parent or parents did can cause him to lose US citizenship based on being born in Hawaii.
“If it was not for us CONSTITUTIONALISTS who in hell have YOU seen out there stir the pot to release any and all records including a valid birth certificate plus pointed out numerous time to you his none NBC status according to his fathers sperm and blood line and BNA???”
Not a word of legal reasoning in your sentence. And that is why you keep LOSING! You also have FAILED to get a single document released.
Can you say FAILURE? I knew you could...
Does anyone remember the thread about the lefties at wikipedia trying to get Stanley Dunhams timeline to fit and they couldn’t get the dates they were fed to jive? Not a one? Funniest thread that I’d read in a long time.
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