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It's Almost Impossible To "Get By" In The US Today
Zero Hedge ^ | 04/13/2010 | Graham Summers of Phoenix Capital Research

Posted on 04/13/2010 6:59:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Megan D

If your post is a true reflection of your life — which it may or may not be — then you need to work on your presentation somewhat. In that post, you don’t come across as successful, happy and well-adjusted ... you come across as superficial and self-superior.

For instance, your post does not seem to credit your husband with anything. When I describe my life, my wife and I are a “we” ... and I wouldn’t run her down like you did your husband — who you described as geeky, superficial (he wouldn’t have paid you any attention without your extraordinary workout and appearance routine), and in need of a makeover to achieve anything in business.

My wife and I are successful (to whatever extent we are) because of OUR plan ... not my plan. I am an attorney. My wife is a music teacher and way out of my league in grace, appearance, intelligence and general geniality. She’s quite a catch — I truly married up. Like you, we have two kids. We’re reasonably comfortable financially, but have some debt (law school is expensive) and have made some mistakes along the way. But, we have a plan, and we do the best we can.

I can tell you that if my wife wrote a post like yours — about my “big salary”, how good looking and fit she is, how she chose me because of my earning potential, how she could’ve married better looking guys but she’s more interested in money, how she’s trained me to look better so I can be successful, etc. — there would certainly be a marital discussion about it. I’m not a demanding husband ... but I do expect that I won’t be publicly disrespected by my wife.

There is a line between believing in a “plan” and being a braggard. Your post seems less about a “plan” and more about how you were/are good looking and smart enough to snag any will-be rich geeky guy you wanted ... and then savvy enough to teach the geeky rich guy how to fit into your good-looking-guy mold (teaching your geek how to behave and dress to be successful) so that he can make his “big salary”.

Bragging about how much money you make, how good looking and fit you are, or how well you’ve trained your geeky husband is rarely becoming.

SnakeDoc


141 posted on 04/13/2010 10:10:01 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: CSM

142 posted on 04/13/2010 10:10:17 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: netmilsmom

I don’t really, but had to take the opportunity to use one of my favorite FReeperisms.

;-)


143 posted on 04/13/2010 10:11:30 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: 2Jedismom

Are you calling me a red x?

;-)


144 posted on 04/13/2010 10:13:45 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Megan D

>>He’s read it and laughed at the personal attacks. He knows me better than anyone. I’m very disappointed with the frequncy of personal attacks. My husband has the rest of the day off so off goes the computer.<<

Sweetie, first of all, if your husband was a geek, you’d have a clue about net etiquette. How one does not pop onto a site and cop attitude with long time posters. They don’t do it on Daily Kos and we don’t do it here.

Second, if and I mean IF you are a genuine conservative poster, you would understand that someone calling your post “drivel” is not a “personal attack” unless you are a perpetual victim or so self-righteous you can’t support your head. We discuss ideas. Just because it’s your idea, doesn’t mean it’s right and telling you that is not “personal”. You sound like a lib.

Third, if you want to take your “business” elsewhere, understand that some of us have actually paid real cash for the site you are insulting people on. Long time posters deserve some respect. That’s any site on the internet. I wouldn’t go hang in your digs and insult you. Best you drop the attitude. People will actually give you a chance.

And on that note, if some FReeper didn’t give another a smackdown, it wouldn’t be a day here.

Welcome to FR.


145 posted on 04/13/2010 10:21:05 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: CSM

*snicker*


146 posted on 04/13/2010 10:21:55 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: SnakeDoctor

You pegged it.


147 posted on 04/13/2010 10:24:00 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: handmade
Actually, I don't live in town, I just spend a good deal of time there. And it's surprising how many on this thread (some more rude than others) seem to think I meant everyone in America is near a bus. Most people live in cities or suburbs, and can take a bus to work, or a train. Most. Capisce?

PS: On my posting comment page it says "Loose lips sink ships." If yours says "No generalizations permitted," that's not my problem. HAND.

148 posted on 04/13/2010 10:27:33 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: ChocChipCookie; Megan D
ROFL You signed up just today to post THIS drivel??

Drivel? Seemed like sound strategy to me.

149 posted on 04/13/2010 10:30:54 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SeekAndFind

bttt


150 posted on 04/13/2010 10:38:48 AM PDT by petercooper (Ignorant Obama Voters: Happy Now?)
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To: CSM

Oh, is it not showing up? It’s a Baptist church marquee that says

Satan: “Somebody set us up the bomb!?”
God: “All your base are belong to us.”


151 posted on 04/13/2010 10:47:23 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: cynwoody; ChocChipCookie

>>Drivel? Seemed like sound strategy to me. <<

Sounds like a Huffpo plant to me.

A conservative plan involves bettering yourself to make a good living. Not finding the “geek” with great income potential. She could have been a great stay at home mom by saving her earnings before marriage. We women don’t have to look for the great earning potential anymore. We marry for love and not degrade our husbands to show how wonderful we are.

There is something to be said for the woman that sees the best in her husband and not as the “geek” with great earning potential. Personally, I’d rather live in a trailer filled with love than a McMansion filled stuff.


152 posted on 04/13/2010 10:50:33 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
...the bus was still running its usual route. Does everybody now think they’re too fine to hop a bus?

I used to live/work in Phoenix. Lived about five miles from work.

The bus schedule was such it was almost faster to walk that distance.

That was when the bus was running on schedule.

Sometimes, it just didn't show up at all.

153 posted on 04/13/2010 10:52:46 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Dick Holmes
The mistake here is that a lot of houses don't heat with electric.

Electric heat would cost a lot more than $101.20.

154 posted on 04/13/2010 10:52:58 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: netmilsmom
I’m married to a “geek” because I love him. I came with a hefty savings and a house.

If you "came with a hefty savings and a house", it had to be through either (1) having previously been a "gold digger", or (2) having had a previous career for which you realistically and responsibly prepared yourself, and through which you earned the hefty savings and the house.

A $100,000 income is not necessarily being wealthy, and in most areas of the country is necessary for a middle class or upper middle class lifestyle.

An irresponsible and unrealistic housewife can turn a $100,000 income into a poverty-level existence very easily, and sap the potential improvements from the husband's career.

A responsible and realistic housewife can help make a $100,000 income a comfortable middle class lifestyle, and contribute greatly to the husband's ability to increase that income substantially through their joint career.

This is not rocket science; neither is it any new age discovery. I'm not a Bible-thumper, but you can read about this same concept in the Proverbs of Solomon.

155 posted on 04/13/2010 10:52:59 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: meadsjn

>>(2) having had a previous career for which you realistically and responsibly prepared yourself, and through which you earned the hefty savings and the house. <<

(2) is me.
However, I came with that dowry. I did not look for someone to have good earning potential. If my husband had been a dirt farmer with nothing but the shirt on his back, I would have married him because “stuff” is not what it’s all about.


156 posted on 04/13/2010 10:58:08 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: DuncanWaring

Five miles would be a real healthy walk! Bus, carpool, subway, train....point is, lots of people don’t NEED that extra car, or that extra job either. They just don’t put a high priority to economizing. How much time they actually spend in the house they went $300k in debt for, whether it’s worth it, that’s what they have to ask themselves, but they often don’t ask.


157 posted on 04/13/2010 10:59:59 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: Megan D; SeekAndFind

You joined just yesterday and are posting today...reading your post the alarm bells are going off...

Most Freeper ladies aren’t as materialistic as your post is sounding, most I’ve read tend to have a hard scrabble no nonsense attitude. They are accomplished because they wanted to be so, not because they wanted “a geeky man” who could give them a fairy tale princess life with “plenty of money”. You sound like a female Pygmalian, having “recast” your “geeky man” into your own image.

Color me skeptical, but I think time may reveal you are nothing but zot bait and trying to cause trouble here....


158 posted on 04/13/2010 11:16:55 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
At 110oF? Maybe, maybe not.
159 posted on 04/13/2010 11:20:01 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Megan D; Caipirabob

“She called my successful plan to become an upper middle class housewife drivel. Sounds to me like jealousy. I expect jealousy from labor unions but not from free market capitalists”

Now I know you are a troll....


160 posted on 04/13/2010 11:20:32 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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