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Poland’s tragedy is our tragedy
JTA ^ | April 12, 2010 | David A. Harris

Posted on 04/12/2010 1:06:02 PM PDT by lizol

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Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his wife visiting the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial in Jerusalem, Sept. 12, 2006.
1 posted on 04/12/2010 1:06:03 PM PDT by lizol
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
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2 posted on 04/12/2010 1:06:37 PM PDT by lizol
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To: SJackson

Ping


3 posted on 04/12/2010 1:07:06 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

God Bless Lech Kaczynski and the Poles!


4 posted on 04/12/2010 1:08:03 PM PDT by dancusa (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. W. Churchill)
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To: lizol
Israel laments Polish President’s death
5 posted on 04/12/2010 1:10:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: lizol

Could you educate us a little please on how new leaders will be chosen or appointed to fill all of the positions these people held?


6 posted on 04/12/2010 1:14:02 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: lizol

“And of all places for Polish leaders to meet their maker, why did it have to be Katyn?”

Indeed.

Prayers for the families of the people who perished, and for all of Poland.


7 posted on 04/12/2010 1:15:52 PM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: lizol; a fool in paradise
As one of the Polish bishops said during his homily, now the whole world knows about Katyń. Indeed, it does now, finally, despite the decades long suppression campaign by the Walter Duranty Times rag.
8 posted on 04/12/2010 1:19:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: lizol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

link A Polish MP speaks up and and goes where - thusfar - few have gone. Suspect more will join him, officially; sooner, or later.

9 posted on 04/12/2010 1:20:55 PM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow t he 'man who would be king' to be one!)
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To: stefanbatory
We don't have the position of the vice-president.

According to the Polish Constitution - in the case of the death of the President - the speaker of the Sejm (lower chamber of the Polish parliament) temporarily takes over his prerogative powers.

Within 2 weeks after that (at the latest) he must set a date for the presidential election (not later than 60 days after that).

This is the President.

As to the other officials - they usually have a vice-..., who takes their prerogatives. And the appointmenet of the new people for the particular position vary.

Usually they are chosen by the parliament (most of the positions).
The military commanders are appointed by the Minister of defense, in co-operation with the President (in this case it will be the Speaker of the Sejm, acting as the President)

10 posted on 04/12/2010 1:24:19 PM PDT by lizol
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To: Revolting cat!

In 2003, after the Pulitzer Board began a renewed inquiry, the Times hired Mark von Hagen, professor of Russian history at Columbia University, to review Duranty’s work. Von Hagen found Duranty’s reports to be unbalanced and uncritical, and that they far too often gave voice to Stalinist propaganda. In comments to the press he stated, “For the sake of The New York Times’ honor, they should take the prize away.”[14] The Times sent von Hagen’s report to the Pulitzer Board and left it to the Board to take whatever action they considered appropriate.[15] In a letter accompanying the report, Times publisher Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr. called Duranty’s work “slovenly” and said it “should have been recognized for what it was by his editors and by his Pulitzer judges seven decades ago.”

Ultimately, the Admin of the board, Sig Gissler, refused to rescind the award because “there was not clear and convincing evidence of deliberate deception, the relevant standard in this case.”


11 posted on 04/12/2010 1:24:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: cricket

A little background on Gorski, the MP in question:

Artur Górski (born January 30, 1970 in Warsaw) is a Polish politician. He was elected to Sejm on September 25, 2005 getting 2850 votes in 19 Warsaw district, running on the Law and Justice ticket. He was reelected in 2007 and is currently in office.

In late 2006, he spearheaded an initiative - along with other members of LPR, PSL and his own party - to declare Jesus Christ the honorary King of Poland. [1][2]

On November 5, 2008, a day after Barack Obama’s victory in the presidential election, he called Obama the “black messiah of the new left” and said his victory marks the “end of the civilization of the white man”.[3][4] On December 4, 2008 the Sejm’s Parliamentary Ethics Commission ordered Górski to apologize publicly for his comments about Barack Obama or to face parliamentary disciplinary proceedings. Górski told the journalists that he probably will apologize but that he had two weeks to make up his mind.[5]


12 posted on 04/12/2010 1:25:05 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: lizol

Do you think the PiS will benefit from the sympathy vote?


13 posted on 04/12/2010 1:26:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator; cricket

This fellow is a lunatic.

Between the lines of his original words you’ll read, that he’s suggesting a conspiracy of Putin and Polish PM Tusk, which led to the death of the President.


14 posted on 04/12/2010 1:30:31 PM PDT by lizol
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To: dfwgator

I have absolutely no idea.

I’m really curious too.


15 posted on 04/12/2010 1:31:19 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

There were several members of the Sejm on the plane as well, right? Will there be new elections for the seats they held within that same 60 day window?


16 posted on 04/12/2010 1:33:06 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: stefanbatory
There will be new elections in case of the 3 senators, who perished. As in the Senate elections -in Poland - people vote for particular person (a bit lik in America.

It's different with the elections to the Sejm - as people vote for the list. OK, a particular person, but being on the on the list. And the seat goes to the one from the list, who gets the biggest number of votes. If he/she dies, resigns, etc. - the one with the next number of the votes takes his/her position. And there's no need to repeat the election.

17 posted on 04/12/2010 1:45:23 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

“This fellow is a lunatic.”

Are you really sure that a conspiracy does not exist? Do you recall the President of Georgia was most likely poisoned by Russian agents? Why is it so far fetched to consider the possiblitiy of a conspiracy? Do you have any mitigating information other than your own opinion?

I believe that this is just the kind of behavior to expect out of Russia with such a weak POTUS that we have. Hell, Obuma probably gave his permission for the Russians to proceed without interferance from us.


18 posted on 04/12/2010 2:06:34 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: lizol

God Bless the Polish People.


19 posted on 04/12/2010 2:11:53 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: dirtymac
Do you recall the President of Georgia was most likely poisoned by Russian agents?

I think you meant the President of Ukraine Victor Yushchenko.

As to a conspiracy - sure it may exist. However - in this case - the Russians would have to create clouds and fog over the Smolensk airfiled. If there was no fog - there would be no problem at all.

And - above all - somehow I don't believe in Polish Prime Minister conspiring with the Russians .
20 posted on 04/12/2010 2:16:55 PM PDT by lizol
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