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Richard Dawkins: I Will Arrest Pope Benedict XVI
London Times ^ | April 10th 2010 | Marc Horne

Posted on 04/10/2010 11:49:41 PM PDT by Steelfish

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To: Quix

The “Black Pope” is the nickname given to the head of the Jesuit order. There is nothing about that in itself that makes him evil.


521 posted on 04/12/2010 10:48:14 AM PDT by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: GCC Catholic

I’ve read the description I wrote originally in several places. Guess I’ll have to dogpile.com it.

IIRC one of the places I read it was at the end of at least the last 20 or so Popes’ descriptions from his predictions.

I do not deliberately post falsehoods as fact.

. . . unless, maybe, it’s obvious satire . . .


522 posted on 04/12/2010 12:44:37 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Not a problem at all... I just didn't want it to get out of hand, and I wasn't in the best of humors when I posted...

That description of Petrus Romanus (or something nearly identical to it) is one that you'll find as the last in the list of the St. Malachy prophecies in just about every case - though some lists will note that it is a suspected later addition and that it doesn't guarantee there aren't other popes between "Gloria Olivae" (i.e. Benedict) and "Petrus Romanus" - and a few lists simply omit it altogether by reason that it is suspected to not be original.

And the Black Pope certainly refers to the Jesuit Superior General - of which the current one is a rather kindly older Spanish priest - I had the pleasure of hearing a talk he gave not very long ago. It isn't intended to be some sort of secretive or derogatory title.

All the best to you and yours this Easter season!
He is Risen!

523 posted on 04/12/2010 2:02:31 PM PDT by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: metmom

I am sorry I don’t understand your response


524 posted on 04/12/2010 2:12:01 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: chilltherats

There is no such thing as a single celled animal. I am a christian. Are you catholic, is that why you can’t see that the catholic faith produces men of cloth that are really wolves? Yes, I agree that you should only be able to molest a child if you are not of the catholic faith. /s

You sir are an idiot.


525 posted on 04/12/2010 2:20:37 PM PDT by IamCenny
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To: GCC Catholic

THANKS THANKS.

I never made a significant study of it. Cursory study now and then. And read some summaries of other studies of the list.

And, personally, I’ve always held the . . . conviction that some have . . . about the END TIMES Pope filling some horrid prediction . . . VERY LOOSELY.

Mostly, I don’t think that’s the way it will come down. Just a bias, I guess. I just don’t think the AC will come via that route.

I do think, that AT SOME POINT, the Pope will have to play along, if he’s allowed to exist, at all.

And, it has been disturbing to see the nods toward globalism that have been discussed.

Much appreciate your kind reply.


526 posted on 04/12/2010 2:45:10 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: verga

He’s been banned.

The mods disagreed with him, too.


527 posted on 04/12/2010 2:50:45 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Iscool
Okay I am going to try this again.

Bishops are given autonomy over their diocese, and could have removed this priest at any time.

The fact that Weakland was a homosexual in his own personal relationship at the time is telling.

When Ratizenger was cardinal he was in charge of the Congregation of the Faith, they would only address a priests actions if they were involved in false teachings. The Congregation of Priests, a completely different organization within the Catholic Church) handles issues having to do with priests conduct.

This matter would not even come before B16 when he was a Cardinal.

528 posted on 04/12/2010 2:59:00 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: SatinDoll
Read this.

Cheers!

529 posted on 04/12/2010 3:10:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: Hank Kerchief
Re-Read C.S. Lewis's The Abolition of Man for this point essentially restated at length :-)

Cheers!

530 posted on 04/12/2010 3:24:18 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Let me know what you think of Matthew 13:24-30 while you're at it.

Cheers!

531 posted on 04/12/2010 3:29:07 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: Bikkuri
Likely enough?

This has all the makings of what Rush Limbaugh calls a "journalistic front".

But he's occupied holding off the Obama hordes. The Dark Lord is putting forth all his strength.

...or is it merely the beginning of the birth pangs?

Cheers!

532 posted on 04/12/2010 3:36:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Cheers!

533 posted on 04/12/2010 3:38:17 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: metmom
As far as I can tell Wontsubmit and some unknown. They got nuked, the offending posts are gone.


534 posted on 04/12/2010 3:38:23 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: James C. Bennett
I don’t see any good in the act that is ordered in this verse. What is your take? (the replies in the other threads weren’t convincing enough, but rather, highly indulgent in excuse-making for mandated ritual child-slaughter).

Does God have the right to kill people?

If so, does God have the right to deputize others to kill?

Do people have the right to deputize themselves

How does one know?

And what are the consequences of disobeying God in such a case? (see also 1 Kings 20).

Nice try, though.

535 posted on 04/12/2010 3:43:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: Little Ray
Can we see that on

a) The History Channel

b) The Discovery Channel

or

c) "Spike" TV?

Cheers!

536 posted on 04/12/2010 3:44:44 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: darkwing104

Yup. Wontsubmit got nuked. He wasn’t last time I checked.

That’s three.


537 posted on 04/12/2010 4:01:51 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: James C. Bennett; Steelfish; darkwing104; 50mm

A couple weeks ago when he outed you for being a retread? Or rather, you outed yourself in post 121.....

You mean this thread?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2478926/posts?page=121#121
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2478926/posts?page=122#122


538 posted on 04/12/2010 4:16:31 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: James C. Bennett; grey_whiskers
Don't forget the context.

I Samuel 15:1 Samuel said to Saul, "I am the one the LORD sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the LORD. 2 This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' "

Taking one verse and trying to make a case for it doesn't work. It wasn't slaughter for slaughter's sake, although since you don't believe in God I'd guess that you just figure that they use the *God told us to do it* as an excuse. God was punishing them and He did institute the death penalty. God, being the giver of life, also has the right to decide when it is time for someone to die.

Do you condemn all others who slaughter tribes and children as well? You're not bringing any of them up. Just like the usual selective condemnation of anything perceived as wrong when a religious group is involved with deafening silence when the left does it. How do you feel about the ritual slaughter of babies by abortion that is promoted by the left? Are you going to condemn Planned parenthood as well?

539 posted on 04/12/2010 4:25:25 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Only problem with that “explanation”, as was discussed ad-infinitum, was that even animals had to be slaughtered, besides children.

Surely you don’t believe children, infants and animals to have been guilty of whatever crime they deserved being slaughtered for? Their lives were not taken by God, but by men. That is what makes the command, disgusting.

There is no contextual explanation to this flaw. If you have one, please elaborate in detail. No one so far has been able to explain it satisfactorily, and as yet, remains unreconciled with any message of benevolence in the rest of the text.

As for condemning others, I think it was pretty clear when I mentioned Islam, or other faiths as well. I am curious, however, as to why you feel the urge to distract, when we’re discussing this particular verse. Does declaring “Oh, but others did it too!” make this crime any less vile, in your view? It certainly seems so.

I’ll await your explanation to the “context” for 1 Samuel 15: 2-3, elaborating how it was righteous and worthwhile, to slaughter children and infants.


540 posted on 04/12/2010 4:55:08 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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