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Yes, Palin is Loyal, but to What and to Whom?
NewsReal ^ | 2010-04-07 | John R. Guardiano

Posted on 04/07/2010 1:32:58 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Conflicting loyalties seem to have resulted in some surprising political decisions by Sarah Palin.

On Monday here at NewsReal Blog I argued that Govenor Sarah Palin’s active support of John McCain’s Senate reelection campaign makes no sense. Palin, after all, doesn’t owe McCain anything. Whatever debt she might have owed McCain she paid off during the 2008 presidential campaign.

In fact, if anything, it seems to me that McCain is indebted to Palin. This because his ‘08 campaign really did her a disservice, and also because McCain staffers have since betrayed the former Alaska governor with malicious and disparaging leaks to the media.

Many of the commenters to my post don’t disagree. However, they write, there is one laudable reason why Palin is actively supporting McCain: loyalty.

Fair enough. Loyalty is important. But it seems to me that Palin has competing loyalty obligations; and that she chose to be loyal to McCain when she just as easily could have chosen to be loyal to other people and other principles instead.

For example, Palin knows that some of her most steadfast supporters in the conservative and Tea Party movements have very profound and important differences with McCain.

These Palin supporters believe that on too many critical issues — including free speech (aka “campaign finance reform”), military modernization, and illegal immigration – McCain is a liberal wolf in a conservative sheep’s clothing.

What about loyalty to these people? What about loyalty to their issues and concerns? Why does loyalty to one man, one politician, outweigh loyalty to millions of dedicated conservative and Tea Party activists?

And why does personal loyalty to a man (McCain) outweigh loyalty to a set of conservative political principles?

No one’s saying that Palin had to actively oppose McCain. That might, indeed, have been awkward and ill-advised given that she was his vice presidential running mate.

But why did Palin have to go out of her way to actively support and campaign for McCain? Why couldn’t she have praised both McCain and his challenger, Rep. J.D. Hayworth, while remaining neutral in the Arizona Senate race?

I can think of two possible explanations offered up, respectively, by journalists Conor Friedersdorf and Matthew Continetti.

Friedersdorf says that Palin simply may not be the conservative her steadfast supporters think she is. She may, in fact, be a John McCain Republican. This would mean that she is liberal on some issues, moderate on others, and conservative about a few things.

Continetti notes that since being thrust into the national limelight, Palin has “become incredibly rich.” It may be — and this is me speaking, not Continetti — that because of her newfound riches, Palin feels an understandable debt, literally and figuratively, to Sen. McCain.

If true, that’s fine. Making money to support one’s family is honorable. But that’s a different type of loyalty, I think, than many of the governor’s defenders have in mind.

John R. Guardiano is a writer and analyst in Arlington, Virginia. You can follow him on Twitter: @Guardian0.


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az2010; derangedpalinistas; loyalty; mccain; mccainiacs; mclamesrinoparty; palin; palin4mccain; palin4rinos; palinhate; palinsrinocircus; paulestinians; pds; rinoapologistsarah; rinos4palin; sarahmcpalin; sarahpalin; scorpions4mccain; trashingsarahpalin
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
We are in a working woman culture now. Palin didn’t create that.
She chose to run for office, generally not a money-making proposition. I agree that families are deteriorating, but excluding working mothers from politics is not modern conservatism.

Being a part time legislator or county official is one thing. Being governor or VP is a 24/7 job.

Further, the word, “gratification” to describe her career? Bad choice.
And what would you call running for office?

261 posted on 04/07/2010 4:54:24 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: rmlew
A womane with small children should raise her kids. As Bristol shows, Palin could not do so.

If I had a dime for every stay at home mom who's teen screwed up, I'd be a rich woman.

262 posted on 04/07/2010 4:54:25 PM PDT by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: rmlew

Have you read Proverbs 31 yet? :)


263 posted on 04/07/2010 4:54:33 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: rabscuttle385
I disagree with many things in regards to President Bush but NEVER with his views about our enemy.....Radical Islamic terrorists some folks!

How about you, rab? Do you believe in the war against those that will have us eliminated? Do you believe in protecting our country against Muslim terrorists as President Bush did?

264 posted on 04/07/2010 4:54:43 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a professor of Law standing at a lectern-Palin 2010)
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To: rintense
Great point, rintense.

Blaming Bristol's very bad choice on not having a stay at home mom is making a huge stretch.

Kids make their own choices, and pick their own friends. You pray for them, teach them right from wrong, and they sometimes goof up.

It's not like Sarah was going to follow her around on her dates.......you know what I mean?

(I was a stay at home Mom and never once went on a date with my kids. :)

265 posted on 04/07/2010 4:57:16 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Truth101A
For the children. The children are doing just find. Tell the men to stay home and take care of their children.
Palin's children are not fine, otherwise she wouldn't have an uwed mother for a daughter. And the stats for children as a whole suck.

Tell the men to stay home and take care of their children.
Why not a socialist commune while you are at it? Or make our mammary gland functional.

As for McCain, nothing would shake up the Party and allow us to transcend the Bush years more than McCain losing.

266 posted on 04/07/2010 4:59:02 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: CAluvdubya
I don't think he does, CAluvdubya.

That's part of why he hates President Bush - just like the anti-war left does.

267 posted on 04/07/2010 4:59:03 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: sabe@q.com
Ah, and what makes you say "Hayworth is a windbag"? Those are talking points. I keep hearing that sentence being spouted by the McCain supporters.

Fact is, JD did a great job in DC, the only thing he did wrong was stand up to McCain and that vicious old f*rt arranged to have his district redrawn so the liberal Harry Mitchell could take it from him.

What has he done to Arizona? Look around you. The state is on the verge of bankruptcy because of his open borders stance.

JD has been a consistant conservative and has been rated higher than McCain by every single conservative group. You don't get that by being a "windbag".

268 posted on 04/07/2010 4:59:59 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: sabe@q.com; All

“Hayworth is a windbag. McCain hasn’t done anything detrimental to AZ,”

Thanks, you’re done ;-)


269 posted on 04/07/2010 5:00:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Elsiejay

I’m not married. However, my point was not a general attack on Palin but the more general proof that she is not as conservative as many would assume.


270 posted on 04/07/2010 5:01:14 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: sabe@q.com
Besides, isn’t a parents responsibility, regardless of sex, to provide and care for their children equally?
If you are a feminist, yes.
271 posted on 04/07/2010 5:03:04 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: rintense

False premise

Incommensurabilities

Pretzel logic

Palin is backing(every day on the radio) the most powerful and evil RINO in the Republican Party.

Therefore, Palin is a RINO.


272 posted on 04/07/2010 5:03:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: jonrick46
McCain still has a lot of miles left in him and it would be a sad waste if Arizona were to let him go.

If you are pro amnesty for illegals, pro cap and trade, oppose tax cuts for economic stimulus, oppose enhanced interrogation of terrorist, want terrorists in US prisons, want Gitmo closed, and love someone who constantly undermines his own party, then Juan McCain is definitely your man.

Which was you favorite major legislation cosponsored by Juan: McCain/Feingold, McCain/Kennedy, or McCain/Lieberman?

Or maybe he's going to save us all by constantly harping on that $20 - $30 billion in annual earmarks while proposing legislation that will add hundreds of billions to our budget over five to ten years?

273 posted on 04/07/2010 5:03:25 PM PDT by Will88
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To: McGavin999

I’ve lived in AZ for over 20 years. I can remember JD Hayworth as a sports tv analyst on local Phoenix TV.

Hayworth was for pork. There is a huge population of American Indians in his congressional dist which he lost to Mitchell. Every spending port spending bill that benefitted that population Hayworth voted aye. I’m not
saying I’m against that he was representing his dist but lots of pork went to them. Its not a secret.

And Hayworth comes across as a know-it-all windbag. I don’t need politicians like that telling me what to do; even if they are a member of my party.


274 posted on 04/07/2010 5:05:03 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: rintense

So because a traditional role does not work 100% of the time it should not be held up? What leftist BS is this. Empty homes statistically lead t far worse results, but to point this out is considered an attack.


275 posted on 04/07/2010 5:05:42 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Its not just me saying it. foxnews had an article in another Hayworth thread where even they reported it.


276 posted on 04/07/2010 5:06:19 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: ohioWfan
Have you read Proverbs 31 yet? :)
A price above rubies? Sure. The problem with using the verse is taht it was written for nobility. We all don't have servants to watch the kids.
277 posted on 04/07/2010 5:06:44 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Has anyone actually bothered to PUT the question to Sarah? About whether she sees this campaign partnership with McCain ending with either his primary loss or the November elections whichever comes sooner?

Her Facebook communiques show a side of her that is clearly more conservative than McCain’s.


278 posted on 04/07/2010 5:06:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: ohioWfan; rabscuttle385
Yeah, I know. I just wanted rab to answer but I expect I'll hear.....*crickets*!

I'd rather be safe with Bush and fight him over illegals and spending than be....dead!

but rab supports the anti war, 9-11 truther, Ron Paul so I guess he'd rather be dead.

279 posted on 04/07/2010 5:08:09 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a professor of Law standing at a lectern-Palin 2010)
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To: TitansAFC

Thank you for this post. I believe that conservatism is on the brink of a big win in November; BUT that could be turned into a huge loss by a couple of nasty traits we are seeing exhibited.

In This case, it is an example of the: “If an otherwise conservative politician does something with which I disagree, then that person becomes the enemy — an utterly vile person, who can do nothing right!”

From an earlier post:

Reagan campaigned for:

Harry Truman

Hubert Humphrey

Helen Gahagan Douglas

Eisenhower

Richard Nixon

Goldwater

“many people he didn’t agree with...”

George Bush, Sr

Ron Paul??

“on behalf of the strongest candidate against Communism...”

Gerald Ford (after Ford had beaten him in the primaries!)

...And many others not mentioned.


Unless those who would demonize Sarah, for campaigning for McCain, are willing to ALSO demonize Reagan regarding those for whom HE campaigned, they need to calm down the rhetoric. For my part, I am very disappointed that Sarah has anything to do with McCain, but I cannot hate her for it.

DG


280 posted on 04/07/2010 5:08:17 PM PDT by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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