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1 posted on 04/07/2010 4:37:01 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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I may be all alone on this, but it would not surprise me to see a push for a national property tax or intangibles tax.

We can (and do) tax income of all kinds (corporate, personal, wages, interest, dividends, capital gains, rental income, etc.). And we can and do tax transfers of money (sales taxes [mostly, so far, at state and local levels], various "sin" taxes [fuel, tobacco, alcohol], and estate taxes. So, our money is taxed, multiple times, coming and going.

But this likely won't be enough for the Obama regime. With spending on "entitlements" and interest spiraling out of control and unlikely to be reigned in, more tax revenue will be needed. There will likely be further increases on income tax rates for "the rich," but for the most part, the regime has boxed itself in by promising not to raise income tax rates on middle and low income people. And I doubt that a wide-ranging VAT will be implemented (maybe on selected "luxury" goods), because it will be perceived as regressive.

So, if you're limited on increasing tax revenues from income and from outflow, what's left? A tax on having. A national property tax on your houses, your cars, your other physical possessions, and most importantly, on your investment portfolio. You won't have to realize profits by selling stocks in order to be taxed; just the fact that you own them (you greedy, selfish capitalist pig, you) will earn you an annual invoice from Uncle Sam. A very quick method of income redistribution.

120 posted on 04/07/2010 8:44:47 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Now with ConstructionCam! Click on my name and follow the progress.)
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I propose that a start on reducing the deficit should include a $100,000 each assessment from every attorney in the US. That will bring in at least 114 billion dollars. Not enough, but a start.


124 posted on 04/07/2010 9:08:52 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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I posted this yesterday on an unrelated thread, but here it is again...

With the debt Obama is running up, the only option without the US defaulting on it's debt is a federal VAT (Value Added Tax). This will be the ultimate battle ground if you ask me.

Obama’s strategy is to layer one unfunded program on top of another until “we have no choice” but to implement a federal VAT.

Food is likely to be exempt, but “bad” things like ammo and guns likely to carry a 50-75% VAT burden.

IMHO that is when the SHTF.

125 posted on 04/07/2010 9:27:24 AM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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Alright!

I was just thinking that taxes are WAY too low. :)


130 posted on 04/07/2010 9:54:08 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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http://moneywatch.bnet.com/economic-news/article/vat-will-the-us-adopt-a-value-added-tax/411133/

“Until recently, discussion of a U.S. VAT had been limited to the back rooms of think tanks and cocktail hours of high-minded conferences. But nearly every other industrialized nation has one, and the idea is beginning to spread. In addition to Volcker, the head of the Senate Budget Committee, Kent Conrad (D-N.D), has mused that a VAT has “got to be on the table,” and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has murmured sweet nothings about it. In fact, interest in a VAT is cropping up all along the ideological spectrum (albeit more often along the leftish end).”

In conclusion:

“Americans as a whole did not squawk when spending rose during the Bush administration, and in electing Barack Obama, they voted for bigger government. At some point, the politics we have voted for have to be paid for. A VAT is likely to be part of the answer.”


131 posted on 04/07/2010 9:58:30 AM PDT by francky (Pro Life!)
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WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!


132 posted on 04/07/2010 10:10:23 AM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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I for one hope they continue this line of talk and thinking. Nothing will throw these asshats out of office faster than a VAT or even the idea of a VAT.


133 posted on 04/07/2010 10:26:43 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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The media started talking about a VAT last summer. I posted this CNN/Fortune magazine article several times already:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/05/retirement/next_crisis_americas_debt.fortune/index.htm

The VAT is coming soon and it will kill the middle class in this country! That’s part of the plan to place the government in charge of everything.


134 posted on 04/07/2010 10:27:56 AM PDT by Deo volente (Hope and Change, aka All Government, All the Time)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2487952/posts


144 posted on 04/07/2010 5:00:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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