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The New NASA: A Path To Anywhere And Everywhere
Popular Mechanics ^ | February 8th, 2010 | Rand Simberg

Posted on 04/06/2010 5:47:06 PM PDT by NonZeroSum

During World War II in the Pacific, many native tribes were astounded by their first contact with an advanced technological civilization, when the Americans would come in, clear a strip in the jungle, set up a control tower and loud giant silver birds would appear from the sky bearing canned food, trinkets, fuel and other supplies. After the war, the Americans went away for the most part, but the memories remained. Many of the natives, changed forever by the experience, decided to replicate it. They cleared their own strips, built control towers of thatch and palm, and waited for the silver birds to come back, providing again the manna from the heavens. Unfortunately, many in the space community engage in similar thinking, with a nostalgia for Apollo, when we had a "real space program."

After President Bush's announcement of the Vision for Space Exploration a little over six years ago, the program got off to a good start under NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe and exploration chief Admiral Craig Steidle. But O'Keefe resigned, and was replaced by Mike Griffin, who canned Steidle, and then formed his own cargo cult, one that aimed to be an "Apollo on steroids," complete with a bigger rocket and crew and service module. He hoped, as the Pacific natives did, that by replicating the plans of the fathers of the space age, he could replicate their success as well.

But Apollo was a success only in terms of the fact that we beat the Soviets to the moon at the peak of the Cold War, which was the main reason it could justify the funding it received. (At one point, it was four percent of the federal budget.) In terms of providing an affordable and politically sustainable manned space program, it was an utter failure, as evidenced by the fact that we stopped doing it (and the decision to do so was, in fact, made in 1967, even before the first landing). In modeling his plans on this achievement, he has caused the new vision to fail as well. Because of both its slow pace, and its sixties approach, it was less Apollo on steroids than Apollo on Geritol.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: constellation; moon; nasa; space
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This policy seems to be one of the few things that is an improvement over the Bush administration.
1 posted on 04/06/2010 5:47:06 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum

That remains to be seen.


2 posted on 04/06/2010 5:49:56 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Well, we know that Constellation was a disaster. The new direction appears to be much more promising. Did you even read the article?


3 posted on 04/06/2010 5:51:51 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum

‘The new direction appears to be much more promising. “

Which one is that, the one of surrender?


4 posted on 04/06/2010 6:10:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: NonZeroSum
Lots of informed opinions on this article (which would be expected in PM), virtually all of which are indeed interested in furthering exploration off planet.

That is the essence: let's get going. In our somewhat restricted opinion we (and in this case "we" is the US) should have been on the Moon permanently years ago. It is NOT that difficult, nor, in the face of giving AIG/Goldman Sachs and George Soros a few hundred billion dollars, is it that expensive!

If Heinlein says Earth Orbit is halfway there, the Moon is further. Water apparently, gravity (of great use), soil basics, energy sources, and it is just NOT that far. Agreed that the single point heavy lift one-shot unit is not necessarily the way to do it, but more often then not the way to break out of the Dark Ages (that of the George Soros,' Nancy Pelosi's, and Barbara Boxer's female introverted socialistic view of the world) is to go do it.

A leader does NOT stand around and wait for fawning ego gratification and approval like Soros, Obama, and Janet Naplitano. These are truly sick human beings. A leader, which was once the United States, gets going.

(Incidentally that is exactly what GWB was saying, regardless of technical unfamiliarity, and of course his awful inability to communicate any deeper understanding of any issue).

Johnny Suntrade

5 posted on 04/06/2010 6:35:06 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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For other space news go to: http://www.spacetoday.net
For a list of Private Space Companies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_spaceflight_companies


6 posted on 04/06/2010 6:35:18 PM PDT by KevinDavis (No money for the moon, but money for High Speed Choo Choo's....)
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To: NonZeroSum; All

How was it a disaster??


7 posted on 04/06/2010 6:35:58 PM PDT by KevinDavis (No money for the moon, but money for High Speed Choo Choo's....)
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To: NonZeroSum

Nancy Pelosi’s husband is on the board of directors for Astrobotics.


8 posted on 04/06/2010 6:40:16 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: NonZeroSum

Is NASA even constitutional? Living in Huntsville, AL this is probably heresy...but really should the federal government be funding NASA?


9 posted on 04/06/2010 6:42:56 PM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: KevinDavis

“The New NASA: A Path To Anywhere And Everywhere” But Going Nowhere.


10 posted on 04/06/2010 6:49:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: BamaBlue
Is NASA even constitutional? Living in Huntsville, AL this is probably heresy...but really should the federal government be funding NASA?

No problem with constitutionality. The Federal government was always in charge of exploring the frontiers, from the days when Thomas Jefferson sent Louis and Clark to the Pacific. Space, the final frontier isn't just a lead in from a TV show. With all of the land on Earth explored and claimed, the only place to expand is up.
11 posted on 04/06/2010 7:08:40 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: KevinDavis

Someone tell me when we conquer Ceres!


12 posted on 04/06/2010 7:18:03 PM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: GonzoGOP
The Federal government was always in charge of exploring the frontiers, from the days when Thomas Jefferson sent Louis and Clark to the Pacific.

Ahem, L&C weren't the first there. Not even the first non-natives. The Russian, French and American private fur trappers were all over the NW long before L&C. They were able to talk to the natives in Spanish for a reason too. Spanish colonialists brought clergy and laypersons to teach the natives.

Throughout history, the government's role in exploration has been limited and often augmented by the private sector doing what the government can't or won't.

Why people think that space is the exception where socialism/statism is best is beyond me.

Of course I doubt Zero's intentions to actually empower the commercial space sector. I suspect it will just be typical Democrat crony capitalism, completely dependent on the government but with less oversight. Think ACORN in space.

13 posted on 04/06/2010 8:08:30 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: anymouse
Ahem, L&C weren't the first there. Not even the first non-natives.

And the Russians were the first in space. Doesn't matter to the argument. The Louisiana purchase was the frontier. It needed to be explored, mapped and its resources documented. The president sent L&C to do the job. Exploration has always been the job of Feds to send the explorers. Now you can argue that it costs too much, that we don't need to explore, or that NASA is poorly run. But the constitutionality of the Federal government commissioning explorers is well documented and was clearly supported by the founding fathers.
14 posted on 04/06/2010 8:12:59 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: driftdiver
Which one is that, the one of surrender?

What an ignorant question. To whom are we "surrendering" by choosing a more cost-effective means of opening up space?

15 posted on 04/06/2010 9:06:40 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: KevinDavis
How was it a disaster??

Because it had no hope of achieving the stated goals at an affordable cost. Did you read the linked article?

16 posted on 04/06/2010 9:08:29 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum

Uh, I’m living it every day in Huntsville. I work at NASA.

A organization without a goal is just a bunch of people consuming money and time.

Obama has given us no goal.

Constellation/Ares had it’s shortcomings, but it was also generating some neat technoligies that could be used latter down the line. Right now, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of engineers sitting here and saying, “What do you want us to start working on now?”

There is no answer.


17 posted on 04/06/2010 9:19:42 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: All

Rand Simberg’s blog is http://www.transterrestrial.com/

Personally, I like him or Bob Zubrin for head of NASA. Privatize, baby!


18 posted on 04/06/2010 9:23:08 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (Coolidge for President!)
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To: Bryan24

“What do you want us to start working on now?”

Ouch. As one who knows that self-employed is very close to unemployed, I can only offer you the encouragement that if you strike out on your own now, you will only see improvement from here (you’ll be retired before we elect another Carter).


19 posted on 04/06/2010 9:44:19 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (Coolidge for President!)
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To: Bryan24
Constellation/Ares had it’s shortcomings, but it was also generating some neat technoligies that could be used latter down the line.

No, Constellation/Ares was generating no technologies at all. The whole point was to avoid the generation of technologies. Mike Griffin just wanted to do Apollo over again, with no technical risk.

I'm sorry that the people in Huntsville don't know what to do now, but the taxpayers, and those who are interested in actual space progress should have a say, too.

20 posted on 04/06/2010 10:16:29 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
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