Paul identifies Jesus Christ as the creator of all things. John identifies Jesus Christ as the person to whom Moses spoke on Mt. Sinai. John in Revelation identifies Jesus Christ as the First and the Last, the Alpha and the Omega and The Almighty.
Clearly Jesus is God. The Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God. As wagglebee noted, Matthew 28:19 notes that Baptism is in the Name (singular) of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (plural). The first verse of the Bible identifies God as both singular and plural.
You accuse others of not looking at the plain verses that somehow identify Jesus as not being the Eternal God, but there are dozens of verses which clearly and unequivocally identify his Divinity and his co-eternal deity with the Father.
You just choose to ignore those verses.
Now if someone wants to claim that Jesus has divine blood because of his miraculous conception (you do agree with me on that, don't you?) and that his blood never mixed with humans descended from Adam then I can't argue with you.
It seems you believe in Jesus as some kind of Chimera (half god/half man), but the Bible describes Jesus as 100% Man and 100% God.
Shalom.
Not so.
1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Jo 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
The Bible is pretty clear...God is god and Christ is a man who was in the flesh...totally in the flesh. Check the definition of 'en' and look at a greek preposition diagram. Do your research and look for yourself!
2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
100% God and 100% man is nonsense and this verse plainly states that if one does not confess (say with mouth what is believed in the heart) that Jesus came completely and totally in the flesh...well you can read it for yourself.
Jesus either came COMPLETELY in the flesh or he did not. Bible says he did. I agree with the Bible.
Clearly Jesus is God. The Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God
And somehow you are still going to say that God is one and that there is only one God?
Paul identifies Jesus Christ as the creator of all things. John identifies Jesus Christ as the person to whom Moses spoke on Mt. Sinai. John in Revelation identifies Jesus Christ as the First and the Last, the Alpha and the Omega and The Almighty.
No. No. And No.
With each of those assumptions you have to deny straightforward verses that word for word make that impossible.
Cling to your traditions, not my problem, but I can tell you have only accepted what others have taught you and drank the kool aid. You have not examined your own beliefs critically, cherry picking verses to support your ideas.
To understand Paul (who actually saw the resurrected Jesus while no man has seen God at any time...) you have to realize that as I said before, the punctuation is not always properly supplied in the KJV and the KJV authors certainly had a trinitarian bias.
Are you really saying that Jesus existed in some sort of spiritual form to talk to Moses, then one day some how became a baby? Talk about something from ancient mythology! Did Jesus exist in God's foreknowledge? Most certainly! But trying to say that the word Lord in the OT means Jesus is stretched pretty thin.
What truly puzzles me is that you can state that Jesus is God and then have no explanation of any of the differences between Jesus and God...one being invisible and never seen, one being seen by many; one never being tempted and the other being tempted in all ways; one praying to the other, one praising the other as his son who is well pleasing...etc, etc, etc.
Jesus claims to be God's son. God claims Jesus to be his son.
But you can toss all that aside due to a handful of misunderstood scriptures?
Not at all, I just let the scripture speak for itself and use the clear and unambiguous verses for the foundation then build from there.
Y'all seem have your theology then mold your verses around to support it and sweep the inconvenient ones aside.
As wagglebee noted, Matthew 28:19 notes that Baptism is in the Name (singular) of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (plural).
That verse is one that is somewhat controversial in that Eusebius quoted from pre 4th century texts many times but his quotes said only 'in my name'. Add to that there is no evidence that the trinitarian baptism formula was ever carried out by those who were first hand witnesses...all baptisms were in Jesus' name, not father son holy spirit.
Again, funny how you expect me to jump thru hoops with your every challenge but nothing from you in return on how Jesus can be God if no one ever saw God, etc, etc, etc.