[P-Marlowe]

I still hold that “life” begins when growth starts, both in humans, animals and plants. There can be no growth without life. What else makes things grow, if not life?

Twinkies.

FWIW my point has been that in passages too numerous to post here, the Bible states that the life of the flesh is in the blood. I have yet to encounter a clear verse that you could use to show that there is life in the flesh (from a biblical standpoint) before there is blood in the veins.

If you have such a verse I would be glad to see it.

[little jeremiah]

I’m not arguing from a biblical standpoint, just a universal, easily undestood, common sense and scientific standpoint. Not that I have something against the Bible, but there are plenty of people such as Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and agnostics or even atheists who believe abortion is wrong, or could be convinced, and biblical passages are not enough to convince them.

[jwalsh07]

FWIW my point has been that in passages too numerous to post here, the Bible states that the life of the flesh is in the blood.

Which would mean that cells are never alive and the recently deceased are.

The Bible is not a science text P-Marlowe.