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To: Eagle Eye
It is Biblical. Family curses. Sins of the fathers tormenting the progency.

Yes there are family curses and sins of the fathers; however, there is no Biblical support for killing a person for the crimes of their father.

But I'm detecting some obamacare-speak here....2 week old fetus = child = 26 year old.

No, you are the one with the Obamaspeak if you don't recognize that a fetus, a child and an adult are all HUMAN BEINGS.

If words have meanings and then we muddle the meanings then words don't really have meanings at all, do they?

The only muddling on this thread has been by those pushing abortion.

239 posted on 04/06/2010 10:39:28 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
No, you are the one with the Obamaspeak if you don't recognize that a fetus, a child and an adult are all HUMAN BEINGS.

Find anything I've written that is consitent to your accusation. I challenge you...I beg you...find where I've written that a (human) fetus is not human.

The only muddling on this thread has been by those pushing abortion.

And you are proving my point of the blatant dishonesty in pro lifers like you!

Again, I challenge you to find anything I've said that advocates or "pushes" abortion.

You are no different than the race baiters. Same spirit of lies.

240 posted on 04/06/2010 10:54:23 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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To: wagglebee
It's interesting how one takes a passage from Leviticus, which is about atonement for sin through the sacrifice of animals, and warps it to mean that if there is no blood at conception, there is no life, so the abortion of a fetus can't be murder. 'Warps' is very operable term, IMO.

This is cherry picking at its extreme. The passage reads: "Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life."

First, 'blood is life' is true enough. But how that can be construed that life only begins at birth is absurd. Does a fetus miraculously acquire blood at the moment of birth? Of course not. Blood is intrinsic in a fetus' development. Therefore if blood is a quantifier for life (their argument), a fetus has life in the womb.

But that is still a straw-dog argument. The passage selected has nothing to do with conception, babies, fetuses, or anything to do with human form. It is a commandment from God on the use of animal sacrifices, and an admonition to man not to eat or drink blood for the condemnation it brings: "Lev 17:14 For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off."

I've been accused of cherry picking passages that suit my viewpoint while ignoring the one that is important in the life cycle of a fetus - child - adult. Yeah, right. And by the cherry-picker extremist no less.

Waste no more time on this tool. He's not worth the effort.

250 posted on 04/06/2010 11:15:37 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: Hokus Pokus POTUS)
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