True, yet you must know that many here simply do not care. The entire subject is ignored when his name is read, and the thread(s) is trashed.
Posted on 04/04/2010 1:29:56 PM PDT by SmartInsight
Democrats are attacking the tea party movement because it is a new force that's bringing millions of here-to-fore unengaged Democrats, independents and Republicans into the political arena. If there's something a ruling party doesn't like, it's a new political player converting spectators into participants.
To maintain their influence, tea partiers will have to maintain their current energy and concern over health care and federal spending.
But tea partiers will have to do more than surf discontent with the Obama administration's policies. They will also have to coalesce around a positive agenda.
The unhinged quality of the White House and the DNC attacks show that they understand how much the tea party movement can affect this year's elections. Now is the time for the movement to ensure its energy - and influence - stay high.
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True, yet you must know that many here simply do not care. The entire subject is ignored when his name is read, and the thread(s) is trashed.
It’s obvious that the so called conservative establishment still hasn’t a clue.
Or do what? Listen to your ilk?
screw rove. Show the proof that the usurper was born in U.S. Until you do, shut the freak up!
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Well, that attitude is...Nonproductive.
It’s called entropy, an infalliable law of nature.
You will not be able to find a reliable person to do anything beyond a temporary slowing of the move to the left, Palin, Ronald Reagan, not even the Founding Fathers.
You’re only choice at the voting booth, ever, has been, and will, be the speed.
They are far better than what is in there now.
It doesn’t sound like you think so, though.
Rove had his chance to work for small government and a VERY low taxes. Instead, we got a new entitlement, the perscription drug benifit and immigration reform. Republicans are trying to take over the small government Tea Party movement so that they can destroy it. Both parties are for big government.
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THere’s no argument with that point — Rove and his boss had their chance — they blew it. It hurt the nation.
One caveat that must be considered though — Karl Rove is not stupid — he’s a brilliant political strategist. He often knows where to look, what to look at and when to move. Infallible, he’s not. Ideologically “pure,” not a chance. But we would be wise to look at his advice and consider it, before we dismiss it without even a hearing.
I say the SAME thing about Dick Morris — whom I have NO use for since his stint with the Clintons in the 90’s. But his political insights and strategies are useful to inform OUR cause. Sift it — Take what we can use to our advantage and dismiss the rest. That’s the wisest course here.
Rove steered his candidate into a popular vote loss against one of the most pathetic candidates ever fielded by a major party.
4 years later, he steered the same candidate to a very modest victory against a man who had accused US troops of torture during Vietnam, and who was an excruciatingly obvious elitist snob.
Forgive me if I’m underwhelmed by his political acuity - particularly since the GOP followed his approach in LOSING in 2008.
“There is not one iota of doubt in my mind that we will win in November, WITH ONE BIG EXCEPTION and that is if the rat/Marxists succeed in dividing our right flank.”
You are so right. If only people would listen. I hope enough of them do not to repeat the mistakes of the past, that put Clinton into power and the Dems in control of Congress in 2006, with their crowning achievement of Obama win in 2008.
A while ago I saw quite a few posts vowing not to let the Dems divide us. Now all of a suddent the faux-conservatives seem to be out in force, trying to fan the flames of division. I hope real conservatives will put things in perspective and won’t do what the Dems want them to do: turn against the GOP, to ensure the Dems continue their majority.
Just rely on your RINO masters, then. Nothing I can do about it.
Bingo.
World’s biggest rabbit is 4ft 3in and weighs more than boy of five
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2486710/posts
I just thought this made more sense, than some of the posts on this thread.
That is the point. Wherever we can we need to fight the RINOs and replace them with conservatives who can win.
In IL, sadly, three conservatives ran, not one of them had the nobility to back out and support a single candidate for victory. What happened? A RINO won.
Now what should I do? Elect Mark Kirk who will at least help move the GOP (an imperfect political organization, but better than the Dems)to a majority? Or, stay home and let the Dems elect Alexi Giannoulias - a thoroughly mobbed up rat?
Politics is disgusting and most often comes down to the lesser of two evils. It is where we are now, not where I want to be.
Deficits go down when Republicans control the House. Things are better, much better than under Obama, with a GOP majority.
We need to treat the process long-term: Create simple agendas that a majority of likely voters will support. Look at concealed carry. I thought licensing was a bad idea, but as it took hold it is moving from a right denied, to a right restored without a license.
We need to focus on two or three game changing laws - one of which is vouchers which will free people from the tyranny of government education.
All this whining and pining for some perfect man who will deliver us a utopia makes us sound like liberals.
I have only One Master and He is risen, don't get it twisted.
Speaking of "masters", will your slaving for Keyes really do you any good?
There is NO salvation in politics.
Everyone else, please forgive my going off-topic. I sincerely apologize.
No, Frum is attacking conservatives (Americans who believe in the Constitution and Natural Law) and demanding they accept socialism like Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid and now Obamacare.
Nobody here is defending Frum or his stance. He’s dead wrong.
To win we need a majority and a leadership that will take us along a conservative path. That majority will include RINOs. It is simple political calculus.
We need to hold their feet to the fire on the agenda. In the meantime get a majority and stop the drift.
Wrong. Deficits go down when Republicans control Congress.
Pugetsoundsoldier - would you be so kind as you post your graph?
Do you approve of what Mr. Rove did to the GOP during the near decade he had the whip hand over it?
You are right about entropy, but we can inject a little energy into the system through focusing on some key issues.
1. Win back the Congress with at least a party that is mostly with us.
We’re scattered across a million different concerns and it makes us weak. We cannibalize each other and it is a waste of energy.
2. Focus on two - three issues - likely vouchers (we need to end the influence of the government school monopoly), debt/unfunded mandates, and ???
If we are the party of prosperity it gives us a lot of leeway on other agenda items. If we are the party of divisiveness we vent our oxygen into space and accomplish nothing.
We’re on the side of right. We can win, over time, but we cannot let up or be distracted.
uh... "tea baggers"? who needs a clue here?
The best metaphor I can come up with is America itself. Remember all our talk that the biggest threat to our country is not from the enemies outside; the biggest threat to our country is the enemy within, its own people; its useful idiots. This is as well true for our cause: the biggest threat to defeat us is us, the enemy within; those defeatist so-called conservatives who allow their REAL enemies to bamboozle them into the dead-end dark corner of division and there crush them to death. Why so much foolishness? Why don’t we grow up and get SMART if we have such so-called strong convictions? We continually let the rats play us like fools and we don’t even catch on.
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