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To: MichiganConservative; All
The founding fathers were libertarians

No they weren't. Libertarianism is not classical liberalism. Libertarianism is a modern, Romantic perversion of classical liberalism.

Fools. George Washington told us not to do what we are doing all around the world with our military. But hey, don’t you feel better to watch people blown up? Don’t you feel better knowing girls, as well as boys, can now attend madrassas and learn to hate us?

Such a shame that that stupid, ignorant fool Thomas Jefferson had to go and ignore Washington's advice, now isn't it? Or rather, it could just be that the Founders never advocated rolling over while those who hate you try to kill you. Yeah, I think that's it.

Face it, you anti-war people live in a stupid, deluded, self-centred little dream world that has no approximation to reality. Do you really think that the Muslims didn't hate us until we started supporting Israel or having bases in Saudi Arabia? Are you really THAT stupid? Are you really THAT blinkered and blinded to the realities of the world? Time for you to get on the clue train, buddy. They hate us because we are not like them. That's why they pirated American ships and sold captive American sailors as slaves in 1800, and that's why they attack us now. Not because of these stupid little Walter Mitty-like fantasies that you Ron Paul idiots have concocted.

You religious conservatives put your faith in government instead of God to change the culture. Only God can change hearts and minds.

Wrong - it's you libertarians, with your complete and utter inability to SELF-govern, who create the "need" for big, intrusive government. Back when the country was basically exactly what we "religious conservatives" would want it to be, we also had a much larger portion of actual liberty. Libertarians are the enemies of the liberty they claim to love.

I realize this reply is an exercise in futility because conservatives like to cut their nose off to spite their face. Or, in other words, they like to build up the government with their “good intentions” that will one day turn on them. That day is probably sooner than you think.

Rather, it's just that conservatives are actually able to process the world as it really is, and human nature as it really is. Libertarians, on the other hand, live in a fantasy world where human nature is good. Libertarians simply don't have a clue about the realities of the world around us. Libertarians live in a world where privatising all the roads would work. Conservatives understand that such an idiotic action would result in massive intrusions into the liberty of individuals by other individuals. Libertarians eventually become conservatives when they grow up.

18 posted on 04/04/2010 4:53:24 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

“Face it, you anti-war people live in a stupid, deluded, self-centred little dream world that has no approximation to reality. Do you really think that the Muslims didn’t hate us until we started supporting Israel or having bases in Saudi Arabia? Are you really THAT stupid? Are you really THAT blinkered and blinded to the realities of the world?”

FRiend, I agree with you 200%. It seems that everywhere Ron Paul people show up there is conflict. I suspect that Paul has an elevator that doesn’t go to the top floors. He certainly appears to have followers just as dizzy as he is.

Before Paul dropped out of the presidential race he had his troops join Republican Central Committees all over America. A video came across the internet a while ago showing a Ron Paul guy traning a bunch of them on how to achieve that goal.

They came here and joined our Central Committee. They almost destroyed it. There was chaos from the beginning and it got worse from there. Some of those same disruptive people believe that the U.S. Government murdered the 3000 or so people on 9/11 by blowing up the Twin Towers.

They never offered any proof of this, but did nod their heads wisely and say that governments were capable of this kind of behavior. Without proof accusing George W. Bush of this is slanderous. (I have no use for Bush at all because of his refusal to close our borders and his efforts to give amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.)

Now, I see that they have brought there goofiness to Free Republic, True to form, there is conflict. The Ron Paul people I was unfortunate enough to meet spouted more venom at Republicans than they did at Democrats. On examination that makes sense.

Libertarians are for abortion, drug use, homosexual marraige or any other behavior, seeing it as a matter of personal freedom. They should be calling themselves Democrats for a Chaotic Society.


23 posted on 04/04/2010 6:11:34 PM PDT by SkipW
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