To: ROCKLOBSTER
Then please see the first law passed by the first Congress that defined a Natural Born Citizen - the only law to do so, and one passed by the men who wrote the Constitution - called the
Naturalization Act of 1790 that stated a Natural Born Citizen could be born off of US soil, which is opposite of Vattel, the typical resource used by those that claim Obama is not an NBC.
This has been hashed to death, and the fact remains - there is no settled law - nor Constitutional definition - of what a Natural Born Citizen is. And per the 14th Amendment, birth on US soil makes one a citizen by natural birth - a natural born citizen.
18 posted on
04/04/2010 6:11:44 AM PDT by
PugetSoundSoldier
(Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
To: PugetSoundSoldier
"the children of citizens of the United States"
22 posted on
04/04/2010 6:17:01 AM PDT by
ROCKLOBSTER
(Deathcare, a solution desperately looking for a problem.)
To: PugetSoundSoldier
Repealed in 1795 as if 1790 never existed, try again
27 posted on
04/04/2010 6:24:34 AM PDT by
faucetman
(Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
To: PugetSoundSoldier
A statutory citizen (bestowed by man’s pen) can never be a “natural born” citizen (bestowed by God/nature).
Statutory citizenship means that a person’s citizenship requires a law or laws to define it. A citizen via statute is constitutionally ineligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief.
A person who is natural born requires no laws to define their citizenship. Only a “natural born” citizen is constitutionally eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief.
“Natural born” citizens are in a class separate from all others. They are, in fact, in a classification or category unto themselves because they alone are eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief — a fact that unsettles many.
37 posted on
04/04/2010 8:10:07 AM PDT by
Beckwith
(A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
To: PugetSoundSoldier
Then please see the first law passed by the first Congress that defined a Natural Born Citizen - the only law to do so, and one passed by the men who wrote the Constitution - called the Naturalization Act of 1790 that stated a Natural Born Citizen could be born off of US soil, which is opposite of Vattel, the typical resource used by those that claim Obama is not an NBC. Actually that law, which was after all repealed 5 years later and replaced with a new statute without the NBC language, said that persons born beyond the sea or out of limits of the United States, "shall be considered as natural born citizens". If that had been included in the original definition, then they would not have put it into a law, as there would have been no need. The 1795 act which replaced the 1790 act, left out the words "natural born" from it's similar provision. And that provision is still the law today.
Even Vattel provided that some persons born of citizen parents outside the territorial jurisdiction of a nation to be natural born citizens. For instance those "born in the armies of the nation" or in it's diplomatic corps.
44 posted on
04/04/2010 11:23:55 AM PDT by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: PugetSoundSoldier
The founding fathers believed that citizenship was a birthright. That Natural Born Citizenship was acquired by birth to to American citizens whether at home or across the seas. The 14 amendment states that you are a citizen if you are born here on American soil,AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF. Subject to the jurisdiction thereof refers to the allegiance of your parents. If your parents are American citizens( you are Natural Born) or are becoming American citizens(naturalization) then you are a citizen(naturalized) at birth. If obama was born in Hawaii,then he is a native born naturalized citizen(Wong KIm Ark,Supreme Court)not a Natural Born citizen. obama is not egible to be the President and thus not legally the President. p.s. the 14th amendment was never legally ratified as the Southern states(and one northern state) were not allowed to vote because they opposed it.
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