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To: Colofornian

And you need to drop the liberal tactic of putting words in my mouth. I have at no point endorsed Mr. Reid or his ideas and policies and neither has the church, no matter how you spin this story. I have merely stated that BYU has allowed him to speak as they have with many other speakers with various opinions. Real universities do that. Banning people from speaking is something the left does. Just ask Ann Coulter. Conservatives understand that such behavior is unacceptable. The Constitution means something. Freedom of Speech means something. But this isn’t about either of those things for you and your crew. When it comes to condemning the LDS church you will throw every last principle you claim to hold dear out the window.


64 posted on 04/02/2010 3:11:21 PM PDT by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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To: Reaganesque

Don’t let the argument be turned into a faith debate, FRiend.

We can disagree with Reid without allowing others to change the machinations to be directed at a faith, rather than an individual who makes poor choices. Reid is making poor choices, some will find any excuse to attack a religion, you’re dealing with them now. This story has been reposted just a few minutes ago, via Fox, I wonder if the thread will go the same way again.


66 posted on 04/02/2010 5:32:35 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Reaganesque; SENTINEL; greyfoxx39
I have merely stated that BYU has allowed him to speak as they have with many other speakers with various opinions.

You're compartmentalizing now. You're trying to make a distinction between what Reid does on the floor of Congress vs. what Reid does @ a BYU pulpit.

How ironic coming from a Mormon! Why? Because we get preached to all the time how Lds don't separate works from who the rest of that person is. Essentially, how works basically "define" the Mormon person ("saved by grace AFTER ALL YOU CAN DO").

I have at no point endorsed Mr. Reid or his ideas and policies...

(Yeah, ya wanna highlight some of Reid's "all you can do" list of "goodies" that's qualified him to make him BYU worthy as a speaker???)

So are "works" only convenient for Mormons to emphasize when they're on a mission, but not when Reid's mission is the floor of Congress???

Banning people from speaking is something the left does.

What a liberal understanding of this!!!

Just because you don't invite someone to speak doesn't = "banning" them!!! You are hilarious!!! Think of how many people EVERY university doesn't invite to speak on their campus.
Think of how many people EVERY university doesn't invite back to speak.
Are you now going to try to tell us with a straight and serious face that anybody who either hasn't spoken at a university or doesn't get invited back has been "banned" from that campus????

This is a liberal view of censorship! How? Because, in reality, the govt is the only one who can censor something (and usually it's something already published)...A school library cannot stock every book in the world. They make stocking decisions upon a variety of reasons...and just because they don't carry 99.9% of the books out there, doesn't mean they have "banned" 99.9% of books from their shelves...yet if a parent, for example, encourages a school to withdraw a library book -- and police themselves via standards and self- discipline...schools and liberals will often accuse that parent of "banning" and "censorship."

It's been the liberals' knee-jerk reaction for years. If you don't believe me, look @ how People for the American Way (Norman Lear's liberal operation) has been pulling that stunt with their annual "Banned Books" month they celebrate. You haven fallen into the PFAW trap.

71 posted on 04/03/2010 7:58:31 AM PDT by Colofornian
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