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Forgotten Study: Abuse in School 100 Times Worse than by Priests
LifeSiteNews.com -- Your Life, Family, and Cutlure Outpost ^ | April 1, 2010 | By James Tillman and John Jalsevac

Posted on 04/01/2010 12:35:40 PM PDT by topher

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To: topher

Don’t forget the 15-year old runnaway in San Francisco.


21 posted on 04/01/2010 1:05:49 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: topher
Even IF this is true, there is still one big difference. When it happens at school they either are fired and or go to jail. Not transferred to another school where they can do it again. Where as the priests, at least some of them were merely transferred to another district, state,or even country, where I'm sure they have not lost their perverted ways.
22 posted on 04/01/2010 1:05:53 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: babble-on

Absolutely.


23 posted on 04/01/2010 1:12:38 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: tiki

Bingo!

To the Catholic bashers around here (you know who you are): How do you like the leftist/socialist/fascist company you’re keeping? Isn’t it nice to be on the same side of an issue as zero and his ilk? /hurl


24 posted on 04/01/2010 1:16:31 PM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: fish hawk
This is the fact that is the clarion call to all who want to take down the Catholic church. Its the cover up. Even if it is greatly changed now, the stigma is still there in the public’s mind.
The recent stories from Germany Ireland and the US, just reinforce those opinions.
This is the battle the church has to fight and overcome. It will take a public zero tolerance program that is transparent and has confidence of the lay people.
25 posted on 04/01/2010 1:21:10 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: fish hawk
The Oregonian newspaper uncovered dozens of cases where teachers accused of sexual misconduct signed secret deals and transferred to another school district.

Most of these teachers are tenured and 40 percent of those transferred are repeat offenders. They call it “passing the garbage” in the schools.

In nearly 16% of the cases, school officials delayed or tried to cover up the sexual molestations.

The series reported that public school administrators routinely transfer abusive teachers from one school district to the next.

This was the third set of accusations that Guevara had molested students. Twice before, when law enforcement officials had decided they lacked the evidence to win a criminal conviction, L.A. Unified officials had quietly put him back in the classroom.

26 posted on 04/01/2010 1:24:22 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: topher

““We have scant data on incidence and even less on descriptions of predators”
So where’d they get the 9.6%?


27 posted on 04/01/2010 1:24:51 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: babble-on
Do the schools cover it up and transfer the teachers to new schools without telling anyone at the new school about the pedophilia?

What do you think? If the media did a full-court-press on the public schools like they did on the Catholic Church, what do you think they'd turn up? Nothing?

The reason you don't hear more about it is because the media is involved with the cover-up in the public schools.
28 posted on 04/01/2010 1:25:28 PM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: fish hawk
When it happens at school they either are fired and or go to jail. Not transferred to another school where they can do it again.

LOL. Our word for the day is "naivete".
29 posted on 04/01/2010 1:28:53 PM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: fish hawk

“When it happens at school they either are fired and or go to jail. Not transferred to another school where...”
Schools were frequently covering for their teachers prior to the 1990s. More publicity about the problem and the covering up by the schools resulted in changes.


30 posted on 04/01/2010 1:29:37 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: xenob
I believe Catholics are public enemy #1 because they haven't rolled over on a lot of the social issues yet.

And in addition to that,the Catholic Church has deep pockets. It is an extremely enticing target for the many law firms and lawyers whose continued existence is dependent on drumming up victims and suing for lots of money most of which goes to the firms. In some cases they have sued again and again.

Everything,at least in this country,with a few exceptions,was dealt with by 2002.At that time the big problem turned out to be that the Church had gone soft on their policy of not ordaining homosexuals.

Initially the headlines shrieked out "pedophile priests" and the country was aghast. When the facts emerged there was a problem indeed and it did involve sex and it was tawdry,sinful,ugly and wrong. However,it was also clear that the problem was not so much one of mentally,sick pedophile priests but instead they were manipulative homosexual priests doing business as usual in the homosexual community. What was learned was there is a big difference between men attracted to children {pedophiles} and men attracted to post pubescent males {ephebophilia}.

According to the research firm the Church had hired,80% of all the sexual activity by priests was perpetrated by homosexual priests. The others were abuses against females/women and then pedophiles.

I would conjecture that before this became too common knowledge,the MSM which has a load of homosexual journalists,pundits,editors,commentators in concert with some of their catholic counterparts in the clergy and aided and abetted by infiltrators who had been in position to implode the Church for quite a while let things slide rather than risk exposure to the general public.

So they pulled in their fangs and waited for a new opportunity,and here we are with many people mightily upset about the turn this country has taken toward a more controlled society and others upset and frightened about the dreary economy,what better way to divert attention and maybe even pick up some more money than to have at the Church again.

Diabolic?

31 posted on 04/01/2010 1:29:51 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: johniegrad
So what you are saying is, forget the pervert priest, hell, everyone is doing this. Still, in my books, a Priest doing it just some how seems a little more sick than a lay person even if it all is bad. Just as if a regular joe cheats on his wife and lies about it compared to a public elected official does the same thing. Supposedly he was above all that crap and an upstanding person.
32 posted on 04/01/2010 1:31:31 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: fish hawk; topher
Abusive public school teachers are fired or go to jail? I regret to inform you that this is not the case.

If you care to look into it, you can scan your eyes across the Web results here (Link) for hundreds and hundreds of examples.

33 posted on 04/01/2010 1:37:24 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Do you mean now?" ---Yogi Berra, when asked "What time is it?" ---)
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To: topher

Teacher abuse is definitely a problem ... but, in fairness, teachers are typically removed from classes pretty quickly, fired as quickly as union rules will allow, their crimes are made public and scrutinzed in the media, and some are prosecuted.

One would hope that members of the Body of Christ would do better than they have ... certainly at least as well as public schools at discipling those that are caught. Shuffling people around is not good enough. Excommunication and firing are a minimum.

SnakeDoc


34 posted on 04/01/2010 1:38:04 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant ... that even a god-king can bleed." - 300)
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To: piytar
To the Catholic bashers around here (you know who you are)

Have you noticd they are always absent on threads like this???!!!!!!

35 posted on 04/01/2010 1:40:07 PM PDT by notaliberal (It's the Constitution---- Stupid!)
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To: fish hawk
So what you are saying is, forget the pervert priest, hell, everyone is doing this.

No, not at all but nice try. Here, let me trace the conversation for you.

You said: Even IF this is true, there is still one big difference. When it happens at school they either are fired and or go to jail. Not transferred to another school where they can do it again.

You did say that, didn't you?

I cited several instances that disproved the point you were trying to make.

Then you said: So what you are saying is, forget the pervert priest, hell, everyone is doing this.

And, of course, if you look at my post, I never stated any sort of opinion about priests abusing children even though you have unsuccessfully tried to make it appear that way.

All abuse in any setting is wrong and the abusers need to be taken out of situations where they can abuse others. I take offense at you trying to accuse me of something I didn't do.

36 posted on 04/01/2010 1:42:06 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: piytar; tiki; topher

Well. I was just going to read the responses and move along.

However, our children are not Right or Left, they’re just our children and they’re being abused by people they have been told to trust.

Hiding behind a religion to abuse children is somehow more disgusting than having it done by a teacher or coach.


37 posted on 04/01/2010 1:44:57 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

No one is hiding behind religion to abuse children, these cases that they are talking about happened decades ago and the Catholic Church has taken steps to prevent it ever happening again. They do it by education and openness. To do anything but go to Mass you must have a background check and attend several classes.

The deal with the public schools goes on as we speak and I don’t hear the NYTs saying a word, do you?


38 posted on 04/01/2010 1:56:15 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: D-fendr

LOL!

Great response!


39 posted on 04/01/2010 2:00:03 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: topher

The priest abuse issue is 80% political. It broke in Massachusetts just before the courts and Romney legalized homosexual marriage. I don’t imagine that it was coincidence that the power of the church in MA was given a serious whack right at that opportune time.

The Roman Catholic Church, being global, and having definite right-wrong standards, is a threat to global socialism with the attendant moral relativism the left requires- this is Orwell’s Doublethink.

So they become a target.


40 posted on 04/01/2010 2:00:06 PM PDT by DBrow
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