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Posted on 04/01/2010 12:35:40 PM PDT by topher
Your posting history paints a much different story.
Even if no public school teacher ever did a single thing wrong, the abuse of students *by other students* would be sufficient reason to shut them down. Why is it horrific for a 24-year-old teacher to sexually assault a student, but perfectly all right for a 17-year-old fellow student to do it?
really? it seems you’ve looked at the article headers rather than reading my comments
In public school systems it is worse. It is called "pass the trash" unless there is a 30-20A filed there is no record at all. I personally know of one incident where a high school principal got a student pregnant, and drove her to get the abortion.
She had been bullied [and sexually assaulted] by some of the students involved in the bullying.
Because of the bullying there are criminal charges against the students [4 girls and 2 boys, as I recall].
I saw some of the articles about the students who were charged. Nobody would hear about it if she hadn’t killed herself. “Just kids being kids; she shouldn’t have been so sensitive. It was all in fun.”
“A few priest have gone to jail too but not enough of them.”
Do you know how many there are...? The DoE has stated they expect at least 10% molesters this year. The priest scandal was 2% - yes - I said WAS...I wish I could say the same for some Protestant Churches and Teachers. That’s if it’s the kids you’re really concerned about. I suspect you’re on the side of the NYSlimes which is just to blacken the name of the Catholic Church. They have their reasons - what’s yours?
And for every other protestant taking a self-righteous stance. Take the plank out of your own church eye. Thanks.
pure BS
the problem in the Catholic Church with priests was homosexuality and the pederasty that accompanied it
rather then the church deal with it prperly we now have folks “claiming” evberyone else did it too and by gosh those protestants were worse
show me where Baptist preachers did it the same to their kids in their congregations and the deacons then banded together and protected them and just sent them to other churches period....forget even trying to compare on the magnitude of the priests
you guys are still in denial and the church has never adressed it for what it is ...a homosexual scandal
what percentage of priests are homo?
does anyone know?
i fear a heck of a lot
i have seen a few fathers speak out about this sickness but precious few
there was no excuse for what was allowed to go on for decades and the cover up
“Protestant numbers are harder to come by, the AP reported, because the denominations are less centralized than the Catholic Church. Many churches are independent, making reporting even harder.
“This bad news for Protestant Churches is sad news for all of us,” Father Morris wrote. “I would prefer the problem be limited to any one church—even if that church were my own—because it would mean more kids would be safe. But as I have said repeatedly over the last few years, the problem of sexual abuse of minors is not an issue of religious affiliation because there is nothing religious about abusing children. The phenomenon of sexual abuse of minors in church settings is the story of sick human beings taking advantage of their position of moral authority to prey on the weak and vulnerable. If Catholic clergy were to be faithful to their church’s teaching, there would be no abuse in the Catholic Church. The same goes for Protestant clergy. The problem, then, is not one of corrupt doctrine, but of individuals being unfaithful to the most basic precepts of their own religious belief.”
Insurance officials told the AP the numbers of sex-abuse cases has remained steady over the past two decades, but churches are doing more to prevent child-sexual abuse by conducting background checks, installing windows in nurseries and play areas and requiring at least two adults in a room with a child.
Still, said Patrick Moreland of Church Mutual, churches are particularly vulnerable to abusers.
“By their nature, congregations are the most trusting of organizations, so that makes them attractive targets for predators,” he said. “If you’re a predator, where do you go? You go to a congregation that will welcome you.”
America’s largest Protestant group, the Southern Baptist Convention, voted last month to refer a motion to study the feasibility of establishing a database of Southern Baptist clergy and church staff who are credibly accused of, have confessed to or were convicted of sexual abuse or harassment to the SBC Executive Committee.
This year’s convention also adopted a non-binding resolution expressing “moral outrage” against the victimization of children.
Bob Allen is managing editor of EthicsDaily.com.
http://www.ethicsdaily.com/news.php?viewStory=9149
I believe many churches were infiltrated by these monsters over the decades yet the Catholic Church is the only one constantly targeted for constant headline pounding. We have cleaned up the mess yet we’re still being isolated, targeted, attacked, and mocked at our holiest of holidays by the power of the state-run media. This is their third/fourth/fifth round on our priests yet nothing on Protestants or Teachers. Don’t you find that more than a little strange?
I’ll be posting a thread on Protestant Pastors and also Teacher pedophilia when I get time - hopefully you’ll visit the thread so you can offer your grave concerns toward those institutions. I believe there’s been a couple of threads on it before on this forum and can’t remember seeing you posting on them. The socalled balance reminds me of the daily kos, DU, salon, etc., and the state-run media.
Correction: The Catholic Church has been around for 2,000 years and if you want to talk about what Protestants meted out toward Catholics we can get into that bigtime as I’ve experienced it first hand in my own country and something I’m very familiar with...
You can document your concerns about Protestant Pastor child molestors here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2486420/posts
This isn’t an either/or proposition. And I would think that a child would have a much more reasonable hope of not being molested in a church than anywhere else.
To put it into a comparison sounds almost like someone is looking for justification.
you’re taking reports of non Catholic ministers or employed lay people who have been arrested for anything sexual at church or not or anytime in their lives including most that involved underaged 15-17 year old girls with young church employees or any preacher who has any sexual crime on his record from all Protestant denominations and comparing that to the behavior of priests with young boys...boys they were in close contact with or boys in their care at school or orphanages.
the writer you quote is misrepresenting the “charts” to equate as an excuse
there is no equating or excuses
Prod ministers do not have the homosexual pederasty thing going to the same degree nor do they have the private opportunity that do Priests.
and these are pure numbers....Non-Catholics outnumber Catholics 4-1 here in the US
and no I do not think the Catholic Church has dealt with this honestly...they hid it for several decades and still refuse to call it what it is....abuse of young males by Homosexuals wearing robes..sickening
that Prods do it too is bad enough but it’s not quite the level of scandal no matter how much pro Catholic writers try to twist it and even if Prods do it to the smae degree then is it excused or less bad?
my hunch is this....often...men who seek out jobs that will put them in contact with children have sinister motives more often than do general population
camp counselors come to mind too and coaches...of any faith...it’s pervs looking for opportunity
sadly
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