[Uncle Chip]

Very lucid. And your opening line pretty much sums up the whole birther issue: “This is why amateurs shouldn't cite case law, they invariably get it wrong.”

No -- I just think that it sums up the two of you.

[tired_old_conservative]

Whatever else you can say about us, we’re definitely not amateurs.

And it seems we’ve been pretty consistently correct in predicting legal outcomes on this issue, precisely because we understand practices and precedents that you simply do not want to acknowledge.