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To: BenKenobi

You need a direct citation to recognize the existence of the doctrine of infallibility? Good grief. Its your faith, look it up yourself.

If you deny that the doctrine of infallibility exists in the Catholic church, then your problem isn’t with me ... its with all the multitudes of true-blue Catholics (on this board and elsewhere) that recognize such a doctrine.

SnakeDoc


289 posted on 03/30/2010 11:14:51 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant ... that even a god-king can bleed." - 300)
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To: SnakeDoctor

“You need a direct citation to recognize the existence of the doctrine of infallibility? Good grief. Its your faith, look it up yourself.”

FRiend, it’s your assertion. You must prove that the doctrine of infalliability as taught by the Catholic Church corresponds to what you have asserted.

So go ahead, cite the Vatican, if you can. If you can only cite yourself and your opinion, then I have no reason to believe that you have actually taken the time to research what the Catholic church teaches.

Yes, my problem is with you. You’ve distorted what the Catholic church teaches here.

http://www.catholic.com/library/Papal_Infallibility.asp

“Infallibility belongs in a special way to the pope as head of the bishops. As Vatican II remarked, it is a charism the pope “enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith, he proclaims by a definitive act some doctrine of faith or morals. Therefore his definitions, of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, are justly held irreformable, for they are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, an assistance promised to him in blessed Peter.”

Now, where on earth does this presume that the Pope and only the Pope is the exclusive representative of Christ on Earth? He’s not. Nor does the Catechism teach that only those who are Catholic can have the Holy Spirit in them. All that the Catholic church teaches is that the fullness of the Christian faith is with them. Not exclusivity.


291 posted on 03/30/2010 11:24:20 AM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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