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To: MinorityRepublican

I ain’t a Roman Catholic, nor (obviously) do I agree with all their theology, but I must denounce this as a red herring. Lutherans, who do allow ministers to marry, see about the same rate of problems in their ministry.


19 posted on 03/29/2010 2:26:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>> I ain’t a Roman Catholic, nor (obviously) do I agree with all their theology, but I must denounce this as a red herring. Lutherans, who do allow ministers to marry, see about the same rate of problems in their ministry. <<

Are the Percentages higher for Non-married Lutheran Priests vs. Married Lutheran priests? I would liek to see som raw data if you have it.


22 posted on 03/29/2010 2:28:36 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Lutherans, who do allow ministers to marry, see about the same rate of problems in their ministry.

The question is, what do they do about it? Do they cover it up like this example?

29 posted on 03/29/2010 2:31:25 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

First not all Lutherans are in the same denomination, so the abuse you describe may be in one particular or several but not all denominations.

The more important difference between the Lutherans and RCC is that the Lutheran churches, when this stuff is discovered, are able to remove their pastors at the church level by the Elders and/or the Congregation, and turn the matter over to law enforcement. There is no church hierarchy that exists like the RCC’s that had an unofficial policy of shuffling and hiding abusive priests and not involving law enforcement. Lutherans get rid of those that do this and have the power at the Congregational level to do that. The RCC historically has not, the bishops and archbishops have moved them around in their archdioceses and not told the places that were getting abusive priests what they were getting.

I know, I was in a church that got one of these guys and the senior priest in charge was never told. He began abusing boys while he was there, several wound up committing suicide because they were messed up from it. The abusive priest was Dan Burns, up in Sheboygan WI. One of the few who wound up in jail for awhile.


278 posted on 03/30/2010 10:09:03 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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