[bitterohiogunclinger]

The real problem, besides the media trying to destroy non union car-makers to benefit Obama and goons, can be laid directly at the feet of environmental wackos and government regulations.

Forcing people into smaller and smaller vehicles by mandate and brow beating them has resulted in people driving vehicles that are physically incompatible.

I've had difficulty with my size 13 feet also hitting the gas pedal at the same time as the brake on even large SUVs’.

Perhaps for once we should examine the facts and the truth before we drag CEOs’ in front of the most corrupt, lying and disgusting group of morons ever assembled in one location.

[Charles Martel]

Forcing people into smaller and smaller vehicles by mandate and brow beating them has resulted in people driving vehicles that are physically incompatible.

Hmm. Come to think of it, I haven't seen the Toyota Tundra pickups or Land Cruisers mentioned in connection with these problems.

[Carry_Okie]

The real problem, besides the media trying to destroy non union car-makers to benefit Obama and goons, can be laid directly at the feet of environmental wackos and government regulations.

Correct. Nobody can make a machine with literally thousands, if not millions (once one included electronic junctions and code) of critical elements without the machine becoming too complex to be reliable. At that point, system redundancy becomes necessary, which costs too much weight and money.

I want crank windows, manual door locks, and a stick shift. Give me a simple car that goes like a bat out of hell, handles well, stops fast, carries a lot of stuff, and gets decent mileage.

My Saturn SW2 does all that, albeit the seats suck. 35MPG at 85MPH. 200K miles with 95% leak-down compression or better on the original clutch (and I live in mountains). I can't get one any more.