Posted on 03/22/2010 11:18:33 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
Texas Republican Rep. Randy Neugebauer was the mysterious lawmaker that shouted “baby killer” during Rep. Bart Stupak’s (D-Mich.) floor speech Sunday night, his office said Monday.
Rumors that Neugebauer was the yeller began swirling Sunday night, after several lawmaker surmised that the scream was tinted with a southern accent.
“Last night was the climax of weeks and months of debate on a health care bill that my constituents fear and do not support,” Neugebauer said in a news release. “In the heat and emotion of the debate, I exclaimed the phrase ‘it’s a baby killer’ in reference to the agreement reached by the Democratic leadership. While I remain heartbroken over the passage of this bill and the tragic consequences it will have for the unborn, I deeply regret that my actions were mistakenly interpreted as a direct reference to Congressman Stupak himself.”
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Not very smart or not very honest. There really is no other option.
How about C:) All of the above.
We should see people picketing with these slogans at Stupack's town meetings and everywhere he goes.
He is not just killing the aborted babies, he is killing premies that are not economical to save under the new 0bamomatic non-health care he just imposed upon us.
You know Bonilla never got the hispanic votes in this district. It amazes me to this day that he lost. This is a huge district...San Antonio to El Paso..Where I live, my area in San Antonio, is heavily Republican. He lost that. The exit polling did show the negative campaigning had a tremednous effect. You are right though about it not hurting Ciro. I wonder if we held Bonilla to a higher standard. He was so well respected. And that respect was well deserved. I see no way we are going to unseat Ciro though. He is very well liked here.
Why either? For heavens sakes.....Why either one?????
I never said that anyone’s anger was not credible. But let it be for the right reasons.
If you don't understand it, then it must, to you at least, not be for credible reasons.
Are you now beginning to understand why people are upset with him?
Do you find their reasons for being upset with him credible, or are there credible reasons still not “the right reasons”?
What are “the right reasons” for them to be mad at Stupak?
I am not “beginning to understand”....many are upset with all who voted for health care. At least have credible reasons if one is upset. There are kinds of credible reasons for any of us to be upset with many. But be honest.
Just my opinion but............
It occurs to me that with the dealings I’ve had with Socialists/Leftists/etc. in my past, you cannot fight a war using tactics of a bygone era. They do not “fight” in a manner that is consistent with what Conservatives have used in the past. It is asymmetrical warfare today. Conservatives must fight them as if it were a life and death struggle to the bitter end. Believe me, they see it that way and they will just as happily kill you as defeat you in a political campaign.
That is certainly a valid observation. Esp when it comes to Texas politics isn’t it? It has long been said politics are a contact sport in Texas....Truer words....
So is this not the beginning of understanding? It had to begin at some point.
What, pray tell, are the “right reasons” for someone to be mad at Stupak.
If there are “right reasons”, one must assume that there are also “wrong reasons” for people to be mad at Stupak.
Please inform us what reasons for being mad at Stupak you consider to be the “wrong” reasons.
us? who constitutes us? I think I have made myself alot more clear than you seem to think. If not, sorry. us? pffffffffffft!
Me if you prefer.
Please tell ME the reasons.
You are really a quibbler. Rather than answering a simple question, put to you multiple times in multiple ways; you want to quibble.
First you say you didn't understand.
Now you say you understand, but don't want it to be for the “right reasons”.
So..... what are the “right” reasons and what are the “wrong” reasons?
When did you begin to understand what you started out saying you didn't understand?
What you are disregarding is the fact in your first two posts you insulted me twice. I fail to believe, that by any stretch of the imagination, do I believe you are in the least interested in my opinions about anything. You do not know me from Adam’s housecat but you made assumptions about my mental capacity and my courage based on one comment. I would want to explain anything to you, why? And I do not think you misunderstand what I said in the beginning...or by the fourth or fifth post. I think you know exactly what I am saying. Why you do not want to bury this pork chop bone, I do not know.
The vapors....overcome...with...the vapors.
Why don’t you just bang your head against a brick wall? I think the results would be more favorable than continuing on the present course. ;)
You are? Let me get you smelling salts...wait..I need to put dinner in the oven for my blue dawg..I will be right back...to read that last post of yours..and I am going to answer whatever questions you asked....just to give you the benefit of the doubt tho I still do not believe for a minute you give a rat’s patootie....stay still...even a blue dawg needs to eat...brb
Meatloaf and potatoes in the oven...pant pant pant..ok..I always understood why anyone would be upset with Stupak or any congresscritter for voting for healthcare...valid reason..but for wanting an order saying the taxpayer would not fund ELECTIVE abortions...I agree with that..why would anyone be so angry because he does not want the taxpayer to pay for elective abortions? I understand some are saying this does not assure us of that. I disagree and I believe Stupak believes he got that reassurance. I am going to give him that. k?? did I leave anything out? And I do not quibble..ask the old blue dawg......
Stupak was a dupe. Either a willing dupe, or an unwilling and unwitting dupe.
Either way he was duped.
Either he is a fool, or a liar.
This bill does and will provide funds for abortions.
That, you may begin to understand, is why people are upset with Stupak, and those are the “right” reasons, and perfectly credible.
The operative word is elective. I believe Stupak believes we have protection against healthcare providing tax dollars for elective abortions. He well may have been duped. I do not think he thinks he was. I am giving him that. Michigan supports Stupak. They always have. He polls very high. Still does. There is a reason for that..whatever they are. They like him. And believe in him.
Nice that Stupak has people willing to go to bat for him. Too bad for him you are not a very effective advocate.
This guys vote did not jibe with his public statements and his “principled” stand against publicly funded abortions. Even when his language was stripped out of the bill, and after saying he would only vote for it with those guarantees; he voted for it anyway.
The guy is a louse and a liar without principle, and if a majority of Michiganders support him, then the more fool they.
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