The “fix it” or House Reconciliation Package is worthless anyway. It was NEVER going anywhere in the Senate, the only thing that matters is the Senate Bill in the House. Once that passes, it’s my understanding it’s over. Obama will sign and we will have Socialized Medicine in the USA.
Supposedly, Santorum told Greta Van Susteren tonight that this clause about the Fix It Bill could take down the entire Senate Bill with it. I didn’t see it his talk with her. Did he say that? If so, does anyone know if it’s true?
Yes, the Senate doesn't even have to smell the House reconciliation bill.
You mean, it would mean the Senate bill would be null and void? There would be no bill at all then, or have I misunderstood you?
The logic is that if the Senate Parlimentarian, the republicans can convene with the Democrats in the Senate, they can stop the Reconciliation Bill.
Now before you repeat that the Reconciliation Bill is just a sham (which is true), remind yourselves that the House Dems are using it for cover.
If the Reconciliation Bill is stopped BEFORE the House votes on teh Senate Bill, there is no cover for House dems, and they won’t vote for it until Reconciliation is back in play (which it won’t be).
So when they say they are doing a ‘slow walk’ to killing the Reconciliation Bill, that means they are hoping the House gets the time to vote on the Senate Bill and voila, they got what they want and reconciliation be damned.
reconciliation = cover
The House will not approve the Senate Bill if the Reconciliation Bill is dead.
So this is playing out the clock......exactly what it is.
The questions now are what can the Senate Repubs do to speed up the parlimentary action on reconciliation (kill it)? What can the House repubs do to slow down the vote on the Senate Bill?
If the House repubs can call for a Motion to Recommit (MTR) many times over, they can slow it down. Also they can call for a MTR for the Stupak dems to vote on the EO language to be put into the Senate Bill etc. Each MTR gets 20 minutes on the floor, it is a way for the House to filibuster.
I’m almost out of popcorn. But dead serious to follow this. In fact I would like to see the states take up their 10th amendment cases because I think they have strong cases and if they score victories, the tactic can be used on a host of socialism, IOW kill socialism in the United States.
In fact, the best outcome would be to kill the bill (but it is never really dead, it is just shelved), then follow through with state legislation to prohibit federal mandates to purchase health insurance.
I’m not sure what you’re saying. Do you mean that nobody in the House ever took the recon bill seriously, or that it was a scam by the House leadership to get the senate bill through for all the reasons they and zero want it......or what? Because if nobody took it seriously, what was the purpose in the exercise? If they said it was a “fix” and then they don’t get the “fix”, it makes them look worse, not better, to the public.