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Stupak: We are close to deal with White House
The Hill ^

Posted on 03/21/2010 6:43:30 AM PDT by AlanD

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) said Sunday morning that he is close to striking a deal with the Obama administration on abortion provisions.

"We are close to getting something done," Stupak said in an interview with MSNBC.

Stupak said he engaged in talks late into the night on Saturday night.

The possible deal would focus on an executive order that would specify there would be no public funding for abortions in the healthcare bill.

"We're close but we're not there yet," Stupak said.

Democratic leaders said Sunday they have the votes on healthcare reform, but Stupak said until there is a deal struck, they don't have the votes.

Stupak said "there were eight of us" in the negotiating room with us, all of them no votes.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


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To: CommieCutter

Anyone have a list of the true “undecideds” at this point? It changes frequently.

I’ll continue to call and email but would like to spend the time where it will most help.


41 posted on 03/21/2010 6:58:57 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: C19fan
If Stupak falls for some executive order crap he is Judas.

Wonder if he has read the Bible? It sure fits.

42 posted on 03/21/2010 6:59:10 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: AlanD

Stalin evidently trusted Hitler.


43 posted on 03/21/2010 6:59:23 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (A gentleman in the drawing room; a rapist in the boudoir.)
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To: chad_in_georgia

“How will this go over with the rabid pro abortion wing of the House?”

You don’t believe Obama will actually do anything do you?


44 posted on 03/21/2010 6:59:30 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: C19fan

Stupak probably always has been a Judas. Stupid liberal Christians ignore what happens in socialist states to babies and the suffering of the citizenry. This is all theater til the last minute.

The newsmedia is totally in the tank for Obama including Fox. Your cable TV/sat TV service is America’s serfdom and slavery. Ejoy the reality TV and ball games because you are paying for your serfdom.


45 posted on 03/21/2010 7:00:17 AM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: combat_boots

A M E N


46 posted on 03/21/2010 7:00:27 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: smokingfrog
"Besides, he can easily undo one executive order with another one."

One bully totalitarian admin begets another.

....this will not end well.

47 posted on 03/21/2010 7:00:34 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Frantzie

Is this supposed to look like Socialist Medicine is now moral?

Effing slimeball democrat tyrants. Every last one of them.

Burn in hell if you pass this through. TYRANTS.


48 posted on 03/21/2010 7:00:44 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: chad_in_georgia
How will this go over with the rabid pro abortion wing of the House?

They have already signed off on the idea. I don't have the link but you can search it out if you care to. If Stupak caves, this battle is over. It will be time to plan for the next one.

49 posted on 03/21/2010 7:00:51 AM PDT by outofstyle (Anti-socialist)
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To: AlanD

Don’t underestimate Obama’s knock for snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory.


50 posted on 03/21/2010 7:01:34 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: Evil Slayer

Obama would ban all abortions for a year if it would get him a victory today. The day after the election, his Executive Order goes into the trash bin.


51 posted on 03/21/2010 7:01:39 AM PDT by AlanD
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To: Old Badger
The Birth Certificate issue is becoming more and more important.
52 posted on 03/21/2010 7:01:43 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: AlanD

They know exactly how this direction will not restrict funding for abortion in any way. and Stupak knows it as well.

It’s a scam to game the voters. Nothing more.


53 posted on 03/21/2010 7:02:09 AM PDT by rod1
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To: Reagan69

Brian Baird (Wash.) (N) Retiring member who bucked party on Iraq war surge. Another target of Clyburn
Bruce Braley (Iowa) (Y) Expected to vote yes, but kcci.com reported Braley is concerned about Medicare cuts
Jim Cooper (Tenn.) * (Y) Has had up-and-down relationship with Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)
Kathy Dahlkemper (Pa.) * (Y) GOP target. Her yes vote could be key to passage. Strong backer of Stupak language
Lincoln Davis (Tenn.) * (N) The Hill on March 19 moved Davis from Likely No category to Undecided column. Voted no in November, but has been avoiding requests for comment
Bill Foster (Ill.) (Y) GOP target who voted no on climate change last year.
Paul Kanjorski (Pa.) * (Y) GOP target. Also voted against education reform bill that will move with healthcare reform in reconciliation
Marcy Kaptur (Ohio) * (Y) Voted with leadership first time around, but doesn’t toe the party line. Wants Stupak language but that’s not a deal breaker. Voted yes during Budget Committee markup. Likely to move to lean yes category soon
Ron Kind (Wis.) (Y) Represents competitive district. Voted against bill in committee
Ron Klein (Fla.) (Y) GOP target
Alan Mollohan (W.Va.) * (Y) In November, seat was considered safe. Now, he’s in a tight race
Solomon Ortiz (Texas) * (Y) Was a late yes last time around. Rejected climate change last June
Earl Pomeroy (N.D.) * (Y) Voted against bill in committee, and for it on the House floor. Rejected climate change bill last year
Mike Quigley (Ill.) (Y) Late addition to this list. The Chicago Sun Times reported March 20 that Quigley said he will not vote for bill if a deal is make with Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) on abortion. Quigley, who replaced Rahm Emanuel in the House, said he talked to White House political adviser David Axelrod on March 19

Loretta Sanchez (Calif.) (Y) Roll Call reported March 20 that Sanchez is not certain to make the vote. She missed all seven votes on March 20 and has said publicly she is not fond of the Senate measure. Was a late yes in November
Kurt Schrader (Ore.) (Y) Budget Committee member didn’t vote during March 15 markup. In competitive reelection race.
John Tanner (Tenn.) * (N) Tanner as of March 20 still undecided. House deputy whip is not running for reelection, but he still will need to be convinced to get to yes. Voted no in committee and on floor last year


54 posted on 03/21/2010 7:03:52 AM PDT by AlanD
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To: AlanD

The pro baby murdering wing knows this is all a ruse and that Obama will simply rescind the order as soon as the vote passes.

Stupak will then claim he was tricked as he runs for cover.

Isn’t issuing an EO regarding a law that isn’t even passed yet, pretty much worthless?


55 posted on 03/21/2010 7:04:25 AM PDT by NoobRep
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To: AlanD

If the EO doesn’t also void the funding for Community Health Centers, or whatever the bill calls them, it is merely a head fake.


56 posted on 03/21/2010 7:04:26 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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To: AlanD

Watch how quickly that deal with the devil lasts once Obama gets his way. Stupak is foolish to believe that Obama cares about life...it’s only power he wants and he will sell out on abortion with the blink of an eye.


57 posted on 03/21/2010 7:04:51 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: AlanD

No matter what deal they *think* they are striking with Hussein, at the end of the day abortion *will* be funded by the government.

If Stupak truly was against it, he’d never make a deal with these people on it. They all know that they are whores and they are well aware they would sell each other out in a heartbeat for the right price.

This is cover, nothing more. The deal was done a long time ago, all of this has been simply fine tuning the payoff.


58 posted on 03/21/2010 7:05:19 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: AlanD
A decent man. Wise statesman. Unless price is right.
59 posted on 03/21/2010 7:05:51 AM PDT by alecqss
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To: AlanD
Bart Stupak is basically a one-issue candidate. He is a conventional liberal but who is very Pro-Life.

No he's not. He had a chance once to vote against federal funding for Planned Parenthood, and he turned it down flat. Stupak is a phony.

60 posted on 03/21/2010 7:05:55 AM PDT by webschooner (Lincoln Freed the Slaves ... Obama Enslaves the Free)
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