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To: onyx

I can’t sleep - sigh

National Journal is reporting Dems have their 216.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2475857/posts


1,513 posted on 03/21/2010 12:04:47 AM PDT by Brytani (Will someone PLEASE give Obama a Monica so we can impeach him?)
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To: Brytani
No, they did not say that.

They said the Dems SAID they had the votes. They've been saying they had the votes for weeks.

But they are still wooing votes even as we speak.

1,516 posted on 03/21/2010 12:11:00 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Brytani

We shall see.

http://thehayride.com/2010/03/no-bill-no-cbo-numbers-bad-sign-for-obamacare/

Update 3-20, 10:50 PM: Jane Hamsher makes a good argument for counting Sanchez as a NO. I’m not going to count her that way, since she hasn’t said that she will vote no. Since the article in Roll Call said that House leadership weren’t assured that she would return to DC for the vote (!), I should mention that an absence is as good as a NO vote. If the vote is 215-215, it fails.

Update 3-20, 9:30 PM: And Nye is a NO! We needed that one.

Update 3-20, 9:25 PM: While I was typing the post below, Schrader announced that he will vote yes.

Update 3-20, 8:40 PM: Since we’re unlikely to get more news tonight, I thought I would run down the numbers and possibilities. Republicans have 206 publicly committed votes. We need 216 to defeat the bill. There were ten members of the Stupak group:

1.Stupak
2.Driehaus
3.Lipinski
4.Kaptur
5.Dahlkemper
6.Mollohan
7.Rahall
8.Donnelly
9.Costello
10.Berry
Obviously, if all of those held, that would be enough to defeat the bill, but the cryptic comment of Stupak that he had lost votes and ”at least six” will stand opposed is still puzzling. There are also still five uncommitted members who voted NO in November:

1.Baird
2.Tanner
3.Nye
4.Boucher
5.L. Davis
Pelosi likely has Baird and Tanner in her back pocket, especially Baird. Davis’ situation I detailed below, Boucher represents an overwhelmingly Republican district and said last week that he would vote against the bill if it had big cuts to Medicare (and it does), and Nye represents a Republican district and faces a strong challenge to re-election. I think that the three of them are likely to vote NO.

Finally, we have the non-Stupak ones who voted YES in November but that we would like to flip our way:

1.Ortiz
2.L. Sanchez
3.Kanjorski
4.Foster
5.Michaud
6.Pomeroy
7.Schrader
8.Ron Klein
Sanchez is a new addition to my list. She’s been a presumed YES vote, but it turns out that she didn’t want to vote yes last time and was actually the final Dem to vote in favor. She said this week that “the Senate bill is a bad bill,” and she is facing a serious challenge this fall. She spent today in Florida (yes, you read that correctly) — thus avoiding getting buttonholed by the House leadership, who now reportedly list her as a NO. I also see Schrader, Ortiz, Klein, and Kanjorski as possible votes our way – they all have good reason to vote NO. And Pomeroy is a likely NO vote in my book.

So, I still see Nye, Boucher, Davis, and Pomeroy as likely for us. I also see another six as good possibilities. If we do get four votes from this group, then six from Stupak still wins it for us. And Pelosi still has a lot of other publicly uncommitted members, and we could still get one of those unexpectly, like we did with Lynch.


1,518 posted on 03/21/2010 12:18:00 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Brytani

I was taking it from the title on the FR thread - just finished reading the article and it’s the same thing we’ve been hearing all day.

This whole issue has gone so far past madness it’s unbelievable.


1,519 posted on 03/21/2010 12:23:45 AM PDT by Brytani (Will someone PLEASE give Obama a Monica so we can impeach him?)
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To: Brytani

I napped. Don’t believe ANYTHING from Richard Cohen.


1,535 posted on 03/21/2010 4:12:15 AM PDT by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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