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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Dinah Lord
From The Corner:

We've been baited. And here's the switch, from a Washington Post news alert:

House Democratic leaders say they will take a separate vote on the Senate health care bill, rejecting an earlier, much-criticized strategy that would have permitted them to "deem" the measure passed without an explicit vote.

The Hill has more:

Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) said that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) won't use the tactic of deem and pass for healthcare reform.

Instead there will be two separate votes, one on the Senate bill and one on the reconciliation bill.

Engel said that Pelosi told a whip meeting Saturday that members should be proud of their "yes" vote because it is as historic as the social security vote.

This is good news for the Constitution and transparency in government. I'm not sure if its good news for defeating Obamacare. Also, Rep Virginia Foxx says that the Manager's Amendment has just been provided to the GOP.

661 posted on 03/20/2010 11:37:55 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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662 posted on 03/20/2010 11:39:47 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: All

If anyone didn’t think that is was high time to disband the illegal irs before now, maybe they will get the message now!


663 posted on 03/20/2010 11:40:40 AM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy freedom & liberty!)
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To: Tuxedo

I’m e-mailing Fox News and trying to get them to find the video clips where President Obama promised that he wouldn’t sign any bill into law that isn’t budget nuetral. We all know that, despite the fuzzy math, this one is far from it. CBO says the “doctor fix” will put the plan 59 billion in the red in ten years. We will witness presidential lie number.....? I’ve lost count.


664 posted on 03/20/2010 11:40:40 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: johniegrad
If he ever stuck a finger in my face like that, I would permanently remove it from his hand.

Me too. The tyrant's rule effectively ends in seven months. I hope the Rs stomp on his political grave.

In 2013, Palin will overturn this thing, and the Dems will be out of power for the next ten years.

Deem this regime to hell.

665 posted on 03/20/2010 11:40:46 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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666 posted on 03/20/2010 11:41:33 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Dinah Lord
...Pelosi told a whip meeting Saturday that members should be proud of their "yes" vote because it is as historic as the social security vote.

FUNP

667 posted on 03/20/2010 11:41:35 AM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: TornadoAlley3

Running out of Ms. Clairol in the Whitehouse apparently.

All that thieving and lying takes it out on a fella.


668 posted on 03/20/2010 11:41:52 AM PDT by HonestConservative (Kill the Bill!)
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To: Dinah Lord

I believe the lawsuits will challenge the constitutionality of the Federal govt “mandating” we MUST purchase a product/service.


669 posted on 03/20/2010 11:41:55 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: monkapotamus

Beautiful!

RT @RepDaveCamp: O’s chief actuary at CMS says can’t fully analyze cost, efficacy of Dems’ HC bill b4 House votes on it http://bit.ly/bZ8KGP

Democrats working on executive order on abortion http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2475496/posts


670 posted on 03/20/2010 11:42:10 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Dinah Lord

Thanks for sharing. Patrick McHeny, you make the people of Avery County proud. Never Give UP!


671 posted on 03/20/2010 11:42:19 AM PDT by illinifan
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

new tagline


672 posted on 03/20/2010 11:42:42 AM PDT by Canedawg (Deem this regime to hell.)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

I have yet to hear Fox or any MSM talk about Ryan and his CBO score about how n0bamaCARE will increase the deficit.

Anyone?

Go Ryan, Go Camp.


673 posted on 03/20/2010 11:43:10 AM PDT by redshawk
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To: TornadoAlley3

You wanna roll up your spotless white sleeves and poke your finger at us, huh?

674 posted on 03/20/2010 11:43:18 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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675 posted on 03/20/2010 11:43:30 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: zzeeman
"every time we give a right to the American people it is like this..."

Trying to make something a right which is not is akin to trying to break a law of physics. The outcome is sure to be bad.

676 posted on 03/20/2010 11:44:14 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: Dinah Lord
Now, Virginia Foxx is asking about the role of the IRS in the bill.

Dave Camp is doing a masterful job of breaking it down. Some of the highlights:

• IRS agents verify if you have “acceptable” health care coverage;

• IRS has the authority to fine you up to $2,250 or 2 percent of your income (whichever is greater) for failure to prove that you have purchased “minimum essential coverage;”

• IRS can confiscate your tax refund;

• IRS audits are likely to increase;

• IRS will need up to $10 billion to administer the new health care program this decade;

• IRS may need to hire as many as 16,500 additional auditors, agents and other employees to investigate and collect billions in new taxes from Americans; and

• Nearly half of all these new individual mandate taxes will be paid by Americans earning less than 300 percent of poverty ($66,150 for a family of four.)

IRS budget would have to grow by 10 billion and that is NOT included in the CBO estimate.

A full copy of Rep Camp's report on the IRS can be found here.

677 posted on 03/20/2010 11:45:15 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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678 posted on 03/20/2010 11:46:00 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: SE Mom

Cost of IRS additional workers alone to enforce Healthcare is $10 BILLION PER YEAR, there will costs for all of the other bureacrats to run healthcare and none of it is in the cost of the bill.


679 posted on 03/20/2010 11:46:06 AM PDT by PMAS
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To: Dinah Lord

It could mean that she doesn’t have the votes or that when Cardoza said he would not vote for deem and pass, she realized she couldn’t go down that path.


680 posted on 03/20/2010 11:47:22 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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