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20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Art in Idaho
I think many of them know they are losing their careers anyway because Zero's so incompetent.

They figure...well, let get one huge socialist item passed before I go...

1,261 posted on 03/20/2010 7:01:53 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Amityschild

America, The Beautiful : Ray Charles ‘91
Live At The McCallum Theater:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghz4_kikLkE


1,262 posted on 03/20/2010 7:09:43 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: yield 2 the right

So did the Tea Party protest really did get ugly today or was that faked, FNC just run a video with the caption(paraphrasing) “Tea Party Gets Ugly”


1,263 posted on 03/20/2010 7:13:48 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Art in Idaho

“I still don’t know why all these Dems are giving up their careers to pass this Bill. . If they vote Yes, it’s automatic loss in November, or November after that. . so Why?”

From what I can gather, it’s either (1) they’ve been offered a job AFTER they’re booted out, or (2) they’re getting such great “goodies” that their constituents will re-elect them, or (4) Obama and Co. will give personal & $$$ aid if needed in November, or (5) voters will realize how WONDERFUL the bill is by November, or (6) Obama & Co. have threatened to ostracize them, or (7) they truly believe this is GREAT legislation, or ..... ????


1,264 posted on 03/20/2010 7:14:51 PM PDT by CherylMc (Here's your sign dumbocrats)
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To: yield 2 the right

FNC now running Tea Party protesters story.


1,265 posted on 03/20/2010 7:15:43 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: All
File this under 'too good to check'

In scramble for 216, Sanchez presents unexpected hurdle.

As their whip efforts narrow to a just handful of Members, House Democratic leaders are facing an unlikely problem vote: Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.).

Sanchez was nowhere to be found on Saturday — she was in Florida on a fundraising jaunt, two Democratic sources said — and while leaders expected her to return for the Sunday vote on final passage, they weren’t assured. What’s more, leaders now list the Orange County Democrat as a “no” vote.

1,266 posted on 03/20/2010 7:16:41 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: what's up
I think many of them know they are losing their careers anyway because Zero's so incompetent. They figure...well, let get one huge socialist item passed before I go...

Dems that vote Yes know this: We shall work tirelessly 24/7 until November 2, 2010 to defeat you. We shall fight you in the trenches, we shall fight you in your district, we shall fight you on the Internet, we shall picket your local office, we shall find your donors and talk with them, we shall vigorously support your opponent, we shall call, write and FAX to defeat you, we shall Alinsky back atcha' at every opportunity until you go down in defeat! Know it tonight!

1,267 posted on 03/20/2010 7:16:43 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Dinah Lord

WTH?


1,268 posted on 03/20/2010 7:17:45 PM PDT by TJC
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To: Art in Idaho
There Goes Another Promise [Yuval Levin NRO)

“Rules governing floor debate must be reported before 10 p.m. for a bill to be considered the following day.” -Nancy Pelosi, A New Direction for America, page 24

If you turn to C-SPAN2, you’ll see that the Rules Committee is still very much at work on the rules for tomorrow’s debate. Oh well.

1,269 posted on 03/20/2010 7:19:05 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: All

As posted on another thread—they are bringing in Bubba! Isn’t that a scream?


1,270 posted on 03/20/2010 7:19:19 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: All

Yikes - the House Rules Committee is still in session and being broadcast on CSPAN@

They are considering amendments to bills and parameters for the bill are being voted on.

The committee looks tired and bored. Most of the votes appear to be going down on the straight 9-4 party line.


1,271 posted on 03/20/2010 7:19:33 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: yield 2 the right

Geraldo pimping as usual.


1,272 posted on 03/20/2010 7:19:45 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Dinah Lord

Executive Order Looks Like a Way Out for Dems
By: David Dayen Saturday March 20, 2010 5:29 pm

Looking at the numbers, I don’t see a really good way to evade the Stupak bloc without pulling the trigger on the executive order from the President clarifying no federal funding for abortion services. While Diana DeGette has agreed to such a maneuver, I’ve heard nobody in the Stupak bloc actually do the same. Apparently members are reading the proposed language.

House Majority Whip James Clyburn is going to give members a few hours to review the draft language of an executive order on abortion before he gets back to whipping them. The order is still being drafted and has not yet been circulated.

“I’m sure hopeful,” Clyburn said, of the order’s ability to pickup votes. “I understand the language is being read by various people.”

He says he doesn’t know whether the order will satisfy pro-life Democrats, “but we’re going to be taking a measure of that within the next couple of hours to make sure.”

Stupak has said throughout that he merely wants to affirm current law, and presumably that’s all an executive order would do. But as Suzy Khimm says, Stupak’s kind of backed himself into a corner by arguing that only his amendment would be sufficient. Of course, the executive order is designed to peel off votes softer than Stupak on the issue, like Kathy Dahlkemper, Marcy Kaptur, Steve Driehaus, or the two West Virginia Reps., Nick Rahall and Alan Mollohan.

In a twist, Republicans may offer their own Stupak language inside a motion to recommit. David Waldman tells you more than you ever need to know about that action. But basically, motions to recommit have in recent years been used by the minority to force a distasteful vote on the majority. Certainly the Stupak amendment qualifies. And as it has passed the House already with 240 votes, it certainly good again, which would cause all kinds of problems.

The session tomorrow will begin around 2:00 pm ET. Three votes – potentially four – will be taken. First there will be a vote on the rule, with an hour of debate on it. Expect a vote around 3:00 ET. Then there will be two hours of debate on the reconciliation bill. That will get a vote around 5:00 ET. There would be no debate in between the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill, which would happen around 5:30 ET. If there is a motion to recommit, that would get sandwiched in before the vote on the reconciliation bill.

fdl.com


1,273 posted on 03/20/2010 7:20:15 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Dinah Lord

The looks on their faces are priceless! They aren’t even paying any attention whatsoever to the amendments.

They are taking up the amendments in no particular order. Just finished with number 56


1,274 posted on 03/20/2010 7:22:31 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: TornadoAlley3

The Senate told the House no dice on any reconciliation, just today. That seems pretty nervy, and why didn’t they warn the House sooner if they actually want this thing.


1,275 posted on 03/20/2010 7:22:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The Senate told the House no dice on any reconciliation, just today

What does that mean?

1,276 posted on 03/20/2010 7:23:44 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Do you have a link on that Senate saying no dice deal? Just curious.


1,277 posted on 03/20/2010 7:23:51 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: SE Mom

It’s 10:30 pm and Louise Slaughter’s eye makeup is looking a little the worse for wear. Her eyes look like two holes burnt in a mattress.

Just thought you’d appreciate an update.

;^D


1,278 posted on 03/20/2010 7:25:52 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: HiTech RedNeck

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1,279 posted on 03/20/2010 7:28:52 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Dinah Lord

Oooh. There’s a fight breaking out. Everyone talking over each other. There’s some question about whether or not the proposers of the amendments testified today.

Now Alcee “We aint got no rules” Hastings has wrested the mike away and offering an explanation of the process for the American people.

Funny, he has the umm, umm, umm speech habit just like Obama.

He finds it passing strange that a huge number of amendments are being offered for dilatory, useless purposes by the Republicans.

I find him passing strange.


1,280 posted on 03/20/2010 7:29:49 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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