And no! You're wrong when you said: "Those poorer are already on Medicaid." They are not! My family, case in point. My sisters grown kids, all three can't afford insurance but are not on Medicaid. My own son, he sells his blood right now to get by. And that's how most of the people I know live. From pay check to pay check, if they can get work, they don't have insurance but their not on medicaid.
And the medicaid system will be flooded. And every state knows it. That's why so many of them are standing up and saying they're going to be fighting obamacare.
MA definitely knows it -- they just won't admit it. These hordes of people who can afford health insurance but don't buy it just don't exist, at least not in significant numbers. So with the mandate, more are pushed into Medicaid (MassHealth, as it's known here). Reporting on the failure of the MA plan is thin, to say the least, but I've heard reports, not followed up on (of course), of at least three hospitals close to bankruptcy and four that are suing the state over the pathetic reimbursements. Taxes and fees have been raised to pay for it (in spite of two federal bailouts!).
The cost of MA health insurance (already the highest in the nation) jumped. (I've seen different figures, so not sure which is accurate.) More people are paying the fine rather than buying insurance. If they get sick, of course, with no exclusion for pre-existing conditions, they buy it, get treated, and drop it as soon as possible, so it's not the bonanza the health insurers expected!
“You sound like you work for obama. All gung ho for obama care.
And no! You’re wrong when you said: “Those poorer are already on Medicaid.” They are not! My family, case in point. My sisters grown kids, all three can’t afford insurance but are not on Medicaid. My own son, he sells his blood right now to get by. And that’s how most of the people I know live. From pay check to pay check, if they can get work, they don’t have insurance but their not on medicaid.
And the medicaid system will be flooded. And every state knows it. That’s why so many of them are standing up and saying they’re going to be fighting obamacare.”
No, I sound like someone looking for a sober explanation and not hyperbole and innuendo. When I argue healthcare policy and economics with people, I want to know the details, not some emotional blather to throw at them.
And if your siblings are making less than 133% of the poverty line as I mentioned, then they are eligible for Medicaid via the vehicle that your state offers and if they aren’t on it, that is their fault. That’s what I meant by the pooorer are already on medicaid.
I am having a hard time coming up with comebacks when ppl say this program is identical to what was proposed by Dole and the Republicans as the alternative to HillaryCare in 1993, identical to RomneyCare in Mass., and more conservative than the plans proposed by Nixon and even Eisenhower. Once the public option was dropped, A lot of the conservative points of contention went right out the window.
So when I ask specific questions, I’m shilling for no one, I’m digging for information.
Some people think the government will help anyone who is below the income cutoff. Naive aren’t they?