[what's up]

My understanding is that even if Stupak's group caved we STILL only need a couple of the undecideds to win.

I do believe it might be an uphill battle for the other side at this point.

[Hojczyk]

Stupak will cave... there are no moderate democrats...mdinos

[unkus]

I beleive there will be some surprise “no” votes.

Pelosi can’t flog all of them all of the time.