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["If we left everything to religion, we would still be living in the 1st century chasing "demons" out of lepers."] This is a sweeping generalization that suggests that all religions base remediation of illness on faith healing, and that all people who use prayer and faith in their lives are religious zealots who eschew any other possible remedies. It also denies the reality that many if not most of today's believers utilize both prayer and medical science.

No, don't read into things. What it means is that if we did what religion teaches (from the Bible) we would still be chasing "demons" out of the lepers, 1st century AD style. It is precisely because (even religious) people don't do only what the Bible teaches them that we have advanced in our knowledge and cure of the disease, as we have advanced in our concept of social standards when compared to those in the Old Testament.

Thank you for making it clear that the object of your faith in evolution is a "doctrine." As for the doubt, well, I suspect paucity only in your kaffeklatch."

It is a doctrine based on evidence gathered. As for little doubt that species evolve, that can be demonstrated on various levels, and has been. Drug resistance is a perfect example of evolutionary adaptation, producing resistant strains through mutation. New strains of flu virus remind us of this every year.

As for my "kaffeklatch" what can I say, coming from a Christian doesn't surprise me.

What it means is that if we did what religion teaches (from the Bible) we would still be chasing "demons" out of the lepers, 1st century AD style.

Let's try this again......

mm:It also ignores the fact that leprosy in the Bible was treated as a disease. I don't recall one instance where it was attributed to demonic activity.

Show us where the Bible teaches that leprosy is a result of demonic activity.

FWIW, that comment of yours was a pretty sweeping generalization there, completely unfounded and baseless. You have no evidence at all on which to base that conclusion. Or do you? Could you provide it?

It is precisely because (even religious) people don't do only what the Bible teaches them that we have advanced in our knowledge and cure of the disease, as we have advanced in our concept of social standards when compared to those in the Old Testament.

Examples, please.

And just how have we *advanced* in our concept of social standards compared to the OT? They're different, no doubt, but what makes ours more *advanced* and there's less so?