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To: betty boop
"But it seems you miss the point: How do universal laws come into existence in the first place? Why is it the nature of energy to be a conserved constant?

I answered this and most of the other questions which were posed again. I wondered why the questions were posed again.

The answer is that energy can neither be created, or destroyed, even through the point of the big bang. The answer to the problem is the equivalent of understanding the statement: A=A. A can not ever be zero, then all of a sudden it becomes something other than zero, because then A is not consistent with itself. If A is zero at any time, then it's zero always.

I know there's no problem understanding the concept with regard to the invisible "the prime mover" that's a spirit that exists in a sea of absolutely nothing, so it's simply a matter of refusing to believe that anything else can exist without being created by the prime mover from absolutely nothing. To do so causes the A that represents the prime mover to be less than A and thus A≠A.

There is a fundamental contradiction between the existence of energy and a real instance of the claimed prime mover.

684 posted on 03/30/2010 2:37:07 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets; Alamo-Girl; Quix; kosta50; metmom; wmfights; P-Marlowe; shibumi; xzins; MHGinTN
I answered this and most of the other questions which were posed again. I wondered why the questions were posed again.

Because I didn't understand your answer. It didn't seem responsive to my question.

You wrote: "energy can neither be created, or destroyed, even through the point of the big bang." This is a flat contradiction of the Biblical account of the beginning, which holds that God created the universe ex nihilo — out of "nothing." There was no energy, no laws, no nothing, before the Creation.

Since clearly you do not hold this view, I had hoped you would explain to me the basis of your position. All you give me is the law of identity, A = A. Yet logic didn't exist before the creation either. And in any case, God himself is not bound by the rules of Aristotelian logic.

There is no fatal contradiction between the existence of energy and the Creator ("prime mover") of the universe, as you allege. Indeed, the statement in the Gospel of John — "Let there be Light!" — can be interpreted as the inception of energy. God creates with Light. In my recent reading, I've come across the scientific conjecture that a great many biological processes may actually be triggered by virtual photon interactions....

So where you see a "contradiction," I do not.

715 posted on 03/31/2010 9:49:47 AM PDT by betty boop (The personal is not the public's business. See: the Ninth Amendment.)
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