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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; Quix; spunkets; metmom; wmfights; P-Marlowe; shibumi; xzins; MHGinTN
Also what do Christians say regarding her claim that only one in five people who "died and came back" seem to have experienced a Near Death Experience?

Why would Christians want to bother with such a stupid question? NDEs are not a matter of statistics. At least not to the people they happen to. That's the part you ever seem to want to leave out of consideration.

As for your other questions, I suspect they are disingenuous. For as a former orthodox Christian, you presumably have read the Holy Scriptures yourself, and thus ought to be able for form your own view of the New Earth, New Heaven, and post-apocalyptic events in general.

683 posted on 03/30/2010 2:17:14 PM PDT by betty boop (The personal is not the public's business. See: the Ninth Amendment.)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Quix; spunkets; metmom; wmfights; P-Marlowe; shibumi; xzins; MHGinTN
Why would Christians want to bother with such a stupid question? NDEs are not a matter of statistics

Well, then what do you call 1 in 5?

For as a former orthodox Christian, you presumably have read the Holy Scriptures yourself, and thus ought to be able for form your own view of the New Earth, New Heaven, and post-apocalyptic events in general

Orthodox Christianity has a slightly different view of that, which is why I asked. You see, in the East, the soul is believed judged immediately after death (particular judgment), and remains either in a state of paradise or hell, awaiting the resurrection of the bodies and the Final Judgment.

In Eastern Orthodoxy, the Book of Revelation is never read liturgically or spoken of in the church. It might as well not exist. Constantinople considered it "questionable" until the 9th century and then agreed to include it in the canon for reasons that are not entirely clear to me. But it is clear that it forms no part of orthopraxis and has no liturgical role.

Frankly, the concept of "new heaven" is even more puzzling. Why would new heaven be necessary?

But I see you have already prejudged my question as suspiciously "disingenuous," so we move on.

696 posted on 03/30/2010 11:16:31 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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