No one is saying that it's *magic*. But there is reality that exists that science can't deal with.
Tell us about the laws of physics. Tell us about anything not directly observable with the senses and without physical form. There's plenty in science that is not material but rather deduced from the effects it has on other things.
You could call those magic as well. And at one time they were considered magic, until someone decided to move them out of that category for one reason or another.
There is a lot of this universe which can still not be explained. Science doesn't have all the answers because it can't have all the answers. But everything not able to be addressed by science cannot simply be blown off as *magic*.
Scientists are rather arbitrary in their labeling of *supernatural* or *magic* those things which science can't explain. If they can divorce it from religious belief, it becomes *natural* and gains respectability in their eyes. If they can't divorce it from religion, then they label it as magic or supernatural and disparage it.
MM: No one is saying that it's *magic*. But there is reality that exists that science can't deal with.
I'm a bit confused as to what you believe is "magical" in Scripture. All the events that are beyond our understanding, such as Jesus Christ rising from the dead, were witnessed by hundreds if not thousands. The term "magic" is how Simon Magnus viewed things because he was convinced they were done by trickery.
Earlier Kosta you said that the inability to explain something doesn't prove the existence of God. The point wasn't the failure of Darwin's theory of the origin of the species but that the complexity of simple cells points to a designer. My point to you after you accepted this was Scripture points to who the designer is.
Please show us that reality. Science doesn't say 'our reality works only for some, but not for others.' The real world works for everyone. You don't need imagination, faith, grace, or a god to recognize and acknowledge the real world.
There's plenty in science that is not material but rather deduced from the effects it has on other things. You could call those magic as well
Like what?
There is a lot of this universe which can still not be explained
And we call such either a hypothesis or a theory, not a factual reality. They are also constantly scrutinized and tested. Their validity is based on experimental proof, and not on faith, tales, grace, miracles, or a priori acceptance.
But everything not able to be addressed by science cannot simply be blown off as *magic*.
Talking donkeys or living inside a fish stomach for three days and surviving it is magic in this world.
Scientists are rather arbitrary in their labeling of *supernatural* or *magic* those things which science can't explain. If they can divorce it from religious belief, it becomes *natural* and gains respectability in their eyes.
Scientific models gain their respectability because they work, and they work on demand, for believers and nonbelievers alike. They don't require prayer, fasting, angels, or miracles to work.
Imagine if you had to pray and fast in hopes your car would start in the morning...
If they can't divorce it from religion, then they label it as magic or supernatural and disparage it.
No one should disparage other people's beliefs. But believers should not claim something for a fact if they can't prove it, imho.