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To: Lurker

What part of the 2nd don’t you understand?
The right to bear arms shall not be infringed.


7 posted on 03/19/2010 7:14:29 AM PDT by squibs
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To: squibs

I’m guessing he’s saying that the 2nd does not grant, but enumerates existing God-given rights.


9 posted on 03/19/2010 7:16:44 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: squibs; GOPJ; Lurker
The bill of rights doesn't give anyone rights, it states that we have these rights and that they can't be taken or "infringed" upon by the government. That is what lurker meant.

To recap: We have these rights the moment we are conceived, the bill of rights merely state that the government has no power to take them away, since they didn't grant them to start with. Get it now?

If we say the constitution "gives" us rights that means we acknowledge the fact they have the right to take them away. They don't have that right or power.

19 posted on 03/19/2010 7:43:46 AM PDT by calex59
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To: squibs
Regarding: “…the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

What part of the 2nd don’t you understand?

Seems to me like the part that says “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms” is the least understood.

Consider these words from the 16th Amendment: “The right of citizens of the United States to vote…”

They are pretty much like the words from the 2nd quoted above. They have the same structure. But, I have heard of no one who thinks there are not limits to the words “The right of citizens of the United States to vote…” Nobody I ever heard of thinks “The right of citizens of the United States to vote…” includes the right of citizens of one State to vote for the elected officials of another State.

But at least some people think “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms” has no limits and is inclusive up to the keeping and bearing of nuclear weapons.

The words “…the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” need to be better understood. Those words are going to be discussed and those who support 2nd Amendment rights should do a lot of the discussing—rationally if possible.

28 posted on 03/19/2010 11:04:04 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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