[Cheerio]

Then we can throw the bums out of office and in 2012 repeal this crap with reconciliation if need be. That will never happen. If this bill passes into law the concept of individual rights will be bled out of the system and the Republic will be dead.

I hate to agree - it will be the end of the America that you and I grew up in. Messiah promised to TRANSFORM AMERICA and he gives himself a strong B+ for being right on schedule.

If, and that is a huge if, the Piglosi vote fails next Saturday at midnight, messiah is going to be bubbling over with anger. His next step will just be to write an Executive Order - NOTHING WILL STOP THIS MARXIST MANIAC.

[TigersEye]

I hate to agree -...

I don't like it either but I don't want to pretend that it's not so bad. Collective rights and individual rights are not compatible. The government will defend the rights that it creates when God-given rights come into conflict with them.

His next step will just be to write an Executive Order - NOTHING WILL STOP THIS MARXIST MANIAC.

I hope he is cornered into doing something like that. Maybe that will wake up the taterheads out there. He can be stopped but only if enough voices are raised against his Marxist policies.