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To: edge919
This whole Hawaiian scene is beyond weird.

The Hawaiian Uniform Information Practices Act - UIPA is a sweeping state-level FOIA-type law. The DOH is absolutely required to release any documentation that caused them to state that Obama was (a) born in Hawaii, and (b) (as if it were their call) also state that he was a "Natural Born Citizen!"

The Hawaiian state office that monitors implementation of the act has indicated that they must release the documentation. Now it turns out there isn't any? WTH? Over.

The position that they have taken in regard to BHO, Jr.'s privacy is also patently untenable. Once he posted that COLB (or whatever the hell it is) on the internet, all "privacy bets are off." At any rate, the COLB is an abstract. A short-cut, not the whole story.

BTW, FReepers led the charge on the ground there. Amazing that the "Birther" lawyers didn't figure it out!

256 posted on 03/15/2010 12:24:50 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama? Definitely eligible to be Prime Minister of the UK.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

The thing that’s baffling is the Hi DOH has several legal ways through existing vital records laws and through the UIPA where they could simply release the Obama birth records, unredacted and fully exposed. If Obama was legit, he would certainly give immediate approval, plus there’s no realistic chance the DOH would get into trouble by releasing these records without his approval. Their refusal to do so is pretty incriminating.


258 posted on 03/15/2010 12:30:51 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Kenny Bunk

This whole Hawaiian scene is beyond weird.
The Hawaiian Uniform Information Practices Act - UIPA is a sweeping state-level FOIA-type law. The DOH is absolutely required to release any documentation that caused them to state that Obama was (a) born in Hawaii, and (b) (as if it were their call) also state that he was a “Natural Born Citizen!”

The Hawaiian state office that monitors implementation of the act has indicated that they must release the documentation. Now it turns out there isn’t any? WTH? Over.

The position that they have taken in regard to BHO, Jr.’s privacy is also patently untenable. Once he posted that COLB (or whatever the hell it is) on the internet, all “privacy bets are off.” At any rate, the COLB is an abstract. A short-cut, not the whole story.

BTW, FReepers led the charge on the ground there. Amazing that the “Birther” lawyers didn’t figure it out!


Anyone can give up their own confidentiality rights for any reason. That has ZERO bearing on another person or a governmental agency legally breaching confidentiality. Obama can give the Department of Health permission to release his short form COLB if he chooses to. That would not give them legal right to release his long form Certificate of Live Birth, which Hawaii doesn’t release any more anyway.
Futhermore there is no additional information on the 1961 Hawaii long form Certificate of Live Birth that is required by the US Constitution, Article 2, Section 1 to establish natural born citizen status.
The Constitution does not require name of hospital, baby’s weight, or attending physician’s name.
The way to get legal release of Obama’s vital records is by any judge in the US issuing a subpoena for those records. That is allowable under Hawaii law, but thus far, no judge and no prosecuting attorney has sought a subpoena.
Please read the Hawaii Department of Health’s response to FOIA inquiries here:
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html


306 posted on 03/15/2010 12:08:47 PM PDT by jamese777
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