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To: jamese777
I think its because the 14th Amendment’s ratification

How do you determine which presidents were actually eligible before enactment of the 14th Amendment? What made Lincoln, for instance, a "natural born citizen", since you seem to believe that people born on US soil to US citizen parents weren't natural born citizens prior to 1868.

213 posted on 03/14/2010 9:55:19 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: Perchant

think its because the 14th Amendment’s ratification

How do you determine which presidents were actually eligible before enactment of the 14th Amendment? What made Lincoln, for instance, a “natural born citizen”, since you seem to believe that people born on US soil to US citizen parents weren’t natural born citizens prior to 1868.


You have slightly misinterpreted my point. I believe that there was simply an assumption of natural born citizen status for all presidents prior to the Vice Presidency of Chester A. Arthur in 1881.
I don’t believe that there was ever a challenge to the natural born citizen status of any president or vice president until Chester A. Arthur, and thus the first challenge occurred after the ratification of the 14th Amendment. Even the challenge to Arthur was political and never went to a court of law.

Arthur was rumored to have been born in Canada. This was never successfully demonstrated by his Democratic opponents, although Arthur Hinman, the attorney in charge of the investigation, raised the objection during his vice-presidential campaign and after the end of his Presidency.

Arthur was born in Vermont to a U.S. citizen mother and a father from Ireland, who was eventually naturalized as a U.S. citizen. Despite the fact that his parents took up residence in the United States somewhere between 1822 and 1824, Chester Arthur additionally began to claim between 1870 and 1880 that he had been born in 1830, rather than in 1829, which only caused minor confusion and the incorrect birth date was even used in several publications. Arthur was sworn in as president when President Garfield died after being shot. Since his Irish father William was naturalized 14 years after Chester Arthur’s birth, his citizenship status at birth is unclear, because he was born before the 1868 ratification of the 14th Amendment, which provided that any person born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof was considered a born U.S. citizen, and because he also held British citizenship at birth by patrilineal “jus sanguinis.” Arthur’s father never relinquished British citizenship. Arthur’s natural born citizenship status is therefore equally unclear.”—From Wikipedia


222 posted on 03/14/2010 10:26:52 PM PDT by jamese777
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