I’m praying the blue dogs hold firm on no.
I’ve got a feeling we’re going to see a lot more DemocRATs accused of being homosexuals this week.
Looking at their count, if those numbers stay as they are, she’ll have the votes. The 35 firm/leaning ‘no’ votes would leave her with the 37 they say she needs from the “undecideds”.
Looks like the fix is in, and it’s going to take decades of work to undo this madness, if it doesn’t destroy the country as we know it first. It’s truly a shame.
That means there are 213 no votes by The Hill count. Only need 3 more. 13 more would to be safe.
if any dim who doesn’t vote for this AND also sits on his arse and doesn’t stop it....he/she is just as guilty as the Pelousi cabal..
Eh ??! Youre not even close. She needs 70 of 72 . Sheesh.
The 37 in the article refers to the maximum number of defections Pelosi can afford. The article claims she is currently at 35 (giving 213 No votes). If she goes to 38 DEMS at NO, she loses. So we only need 3 more. Off the list of 72.
But I, too, do not consider The Hill to be reliable. Interesting list, unreliable.
That's not correct. Pelosi need 69, not 37, of 72 "undecided" members (the way The Hill is counting things). The large majority of those 72 "undecided" are really YES votes, but they haven't officially said so.
Still, it's a steep hill for Pelosi. If those 72 undecideds really were on Pelosi's side, they'd be announcing their YES votes to the media to help build momentum for passage. As it is, almost nobody is eager to support HCR, and it's almost impossible to find previous NO votes which are switching to YES. Whereas it's very easy to find previous YES votes who are either switching to NO or expressing their grave doubts.
It's not just a matter of strong-arming individual fence-sitting Democrats into voting for HCR. Even if a Congress Member is susceptible to pressure or bribes or blackmail, it's pointless for that member to give in to Pelosi if the bill is going to fail anyway. Then the member has the worst of both worlds: a career-ending vote which accomplishes nothing.
So Pelosi has to strong arm enough votes AND convince all of her caucus that she will SUCCEED in getting enough votes. That's why the White House and House Democrat leadership are putting on such a brave front that the bill will pass, and why the whole thing could so easily collapse if just a few more members announce their NO votes.
What difference will this make if they employ the Slaughter Rule?
Those 72 "undecideds" have already decided. They will play this out to the last "holdout"!
Here in Ohio one of those holdout's on NAFTA was John Kasich! He kept pretending to be undecided right up to the last day. Of course he voted for it!
I believe they feel this is their last chance to bankrupt this nation and will run somewhere and hide when it's all over!
My new slogan and motto:
The founders of this country won their freedom by using guns on tyrrants. If necessary, it will keeps its freedom the same way.
pubs should come out and say “well propose buying across st lines, pooling for small bus., and tort reform - so go ahead and vote NO b/c we’ll help you do those things immediately”