‘They Just Want This Over’ (interview with Stupak)

National Review (The Corner) ^ | March 12, 2010 | Robert Costa

[Crawdad]

Strange times we’re living in.

[TChris]

That quote should be paraded around in large, bold print!

Dems: We want to kill more babies, because it will save money in our socialist health care system.

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

So Pelosi can twist arms and attack and it is ok with the media, but when Tom DeLay did it he was a bully?

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

This has really reached an unhealthy stage,” Stupak says. “People are threatening ethics complaints on me.

Well, Bart, can you say "Eric Massa"?

[arthurus]

From the beginning it has mystified me whythe abortion provisions were not jettisoned early so that they can get this thing in place as a fait accompli.They can always add the abortion language later unless they have judged that the country is trending the “wrong way.”Perhaps the feeliong among the female leftists is that abortion really is an unforgivable sin and they can and must legislate the sinfulness of it away for self vindication and the assuaging of of their own souls, however they might conceive them. Perhaps that is even more important to them than the socialism. I never considered that before.

[Chaguito]

Sounds like a Semmens spoof.

[maxter]

Should he be saved from defeat in November for his principled stand?

[muddler]

I am not going to pay for abortions, ever, no matter what.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Not fooled by Stupak and I'm not patting him on the back for his "heroic" stand.

Two reasons -

#1 - He refuses to oppose the bill on its basic premise. The people don't want government-run health care, and it's not going to make it better even if it does include a ban on abortion funding. We all know the ACLU or some lib group will file suit and the court will force Obamacare to cover abortions. So gov't run healthcare is fine as long as abortions aren't covered?

#2 - Where was Stupak when Planned Parenthood was being funded? He had an opportunity to vote against funding for PP but didn't do so.

FReepers who putting their faith on these so-called moderate or Blue Dog Democrats are being played for suckers.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Should he be saved from defeat in November for his principled stand?

Hell no, because you're already letting the enemy win the long-term war.

[paul51]

I give the guy credit for standing up. He’s held firm when lesser people have folded.

[The Sons of Liberty]

If money is the issue - everyone in Washington works for $1 a year; no retirement; and the healthcare is the same as ordinary taxpayers.

[JenB987]

I agree...I just want it over, too, so I can stop losing sleep over my freedoms being ripped away.

[skeeter]

I believe the libs want to end the slow bleeding and vote whether they have enough to pass it or not.

The best outcome for them is being able to go back to their loonie progressive base and claim they did their best, then get back to what they do best - degenerate, dehumanize & debase anyone who disagrees with them.

[WHBates]

How bizarre, these people won't rest until they have less than 100 seats in the Congress. It can't happen soon enough for me.

This has been a continuous nightmare since the 2008 election and it just doesn't end.

[NativeNewYorker]

So now we have the smoking gun. The Democrats ARE the party of death.

[throwback]

I always thought it would pass. I don’t think so anymore. The instinct for self preservation has kicked in. A bribe is only good if you live to enjoy it. Nelson got his bribes for our state, but he’s gone. Nothing will restore his reputation at this point. People yell at him in public. Any dim needs to think long and hard before they go down this road.

[WHBates]

Well, with that thought process on abortion how far of a leap would it be for these people to rationalize forced abortion to balance to HC budget or the entire national budget in future years?