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To: retrogo
Problem is, "W" did fake the WMD thing. He wanted at Iraq any way he could. The libs have him on that one. The truth was in some ways was a relative thing for Mr. Bush.

George W. Bush - a mixed bag if there ever was one.

Morally conservative and tough on defensive issues. He put the Islamoterroists back on their heels and they still haven't recovered (Give Obama time...). He also nominated some good SCOTUS Justices. He also pushed for lower taxes.

However, paradoxically, he regularly dissed the Constitution with fair distain and grew government and spending to historic heights. Politically and economically, he was a liberal, thinking government was the answer.

His weaknesses will always be exploited by the leftist idiots who will ignore the fact that he set the terrorists back on their heels.

11 posted on 03/09/2010 6:31:35 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

bump


20 posted on 03/09/2010 6:37:25 PM PST by Mamzelle (On FR, watch out for the Club of late-2004)
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To: Jim 0216
Problem is, “W” did fake the WMD thing

Nonsense.
Everyone from Bill Clinton, to Algore to Harry Redid all swore that Saddam had WMD’s even before Bush took power. We have these people on tape declaring that Saddam had WMD’s.
Heck the CIA themselves assured Bush that Saddam had WMD’s.
The fact that no WMD’s were found, doesn't change those facts, nor is it due to any “fakery” by Bush.

22 posted on 03/09/2010 6:39:55 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Jim 0216

Problem is, “W” did fake the WMD thing. He wanted at Iraq any way he could. The libs have him on that one. The truth was in some ways was a relative thing for Mr. Bush.
George W. Bush - a mixed bag if there ever was one.

Morally conservative and tough on defensive issues. He put the Islamoterroists back on their heels and they still haven’t recovered (Give Obama time...). He also nominated some good SCOTUS Justices. He also pushed for lower taxes.

However, paradoxically, he regularly dissed the Constitution with fair distain and grew government and spending to historic heights. Politically and economically, he was a liberal, thinking government was the answer.

His weaknesses will always be exploited by the leftist idiots who will ignore the fact that he set the terrorists back on their heels.

11 posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:31:35 PM by Jim 0216


YOU LIE.

The Clintons first perpetrated that Saddam had WMD....but nevermind facts...


25 posted on 03/09/2010 6:49:16 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Jim 0216
Problem is, "W" did fake the WMD thing. He wanted at Iraq any way he could.

For that statement alone, you are an idiot.

I guess you forgot about all the years between the Gulf War and 2001, when Saddam was at war with us, constantly trying to shoot down our planes (while Clinton was groping and getting serviced and generally ignoring Iraq). Financing Palestinian suicide bombers, not to mention his gassing of the Kurds.

Bush was operating under the assumption that every other countries intelligence were operating under...that is, Saddam had WMD's before, and since he wasn't big on following treaties he himself signed, he probably still had some.

Go tell your BS to people who are as equally gnatwitted as you.

35 posted on 03/09/2010 7:12:32 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Jim 0216

BS.

Intel dating back to the mid 90s under Clinton and from countries all over the world indicated an active WND strategy. More importantly, Saddam refused to comply with the UN rules 19 or so times. He had benign guys like ‘chemical ali’ on staff.

Yes, Bush just made it up for no reason. Jeez.


36 posted on 03/09/2010 7:12:42 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: Jim 0216
Problem is, "W" did fake the WMD thing.

No, the problem is, Jim0216 is so eaten up by Bush Derangement Syndrome that he believes what the liberals want him to believe.

38 posted on 03/09/2010 7:17:38 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Jim 0216

Maybe but almost everyone in the Intelligence community was convinced that Saddam and Iraq had MSD’s at some point and very quietly after the invasion they found some.
The real truth may never be known fully.
But Saddam and that brood of wild dogs that were his sons needed to be put down.


43 posted on 03/09/2010 7:21:26 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Jim 0216

George Bush did not fake the WMD thing, no matter what you think you know, what you read. There is no conclusive evidence that he faked anything. That sort of casual overstatemnt of fact, is all to common nowadays. Again, I am sure you have something that you call evidence, and there the argument would start, but fact is. There is no evidence that George Bush faked the WMD thing. None. Had there been he would have been impeached. Period. He would be prosecuted NOW, if that were true. So, please lets be real.


45 posted on 03/09/2010 7:22:17 PM PST by ronnieb
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To: Jim 0216
"Problem is, "W" did fake the WMD thing. He wanted at Iraq any way he could. The libs have him on that one. "

I try to be civil on this forum, but you are utterly ignorant.

BEFORE Bush was sworn in, Clinton, Gore, Hillary, Albright and Clinton-appointed CIA Director George Tenet ALL stated unequivivcally that Saddam had WMD including an active nuclear program. And no western intelligence agency disagreed with that.

STOP believing Matt Damon and the Hollywood Congress of Emoting Imbeciles. Do some research.

51 posted on 03/09/2010 7:29:33 PM PST by cookcounty (Let us not speak of the honor of men. Rather, let us bind them with the Constitution. --Jefferson)
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To: Jim 0216

>> Problem is, “W” did fake the WMD thing.

Strange. I thought Bush warned of the imminent danger of Iraq “acquiring” WMD, not necessarily possessing.


63 posted on 03/09/2010 7:48:44 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Jim 0216; SmokingJoe

The libs have him on that one.<<<<

BS!

Bill Clinton: Clear Evidence of Iraqi WMD Program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0f5u_0ytUs

John Kerry saying he found WMD in Iraq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH93UlGHBfk&feature=related

Gore To Bush: You Ignored Saddam’s Terrorist Ties!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h6gehCPvpk&feature=related

WMD Quotes from Democrats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnjcofMFHsA&feature=related


72 posted on 03/09/2010 8:02:50 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: Jim 0216
" Politically and economically, he was a liberal, thinking government was the answer."

I think you give him too much credit. To me he appears an ultimate politician: it's all about victory. And, when victory came, he had no vision --- on any dimension, save privatization of social security --- to utilize that victory. Hit righ-hand man is an epitome of the same: Karl Rove can count votes by county but has absolutely no notion of strategy, let alone mission. Whereas for Dems Big Government is a notion, a vision and mission, for Bush and Rove it was a device for buying votes. Bush's utmost complacency on closing the borders stems from the same root: buying (Hispanic) votes.

79 posted on 03/09/2010 8:14:04 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Jim 0216
Problem is, "W" did fake the WMD thing.

Wrong.

101 posted on 03/09/2010 10:37:14 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Jim 0216
"W" did fake the WMD thing.

You're a moron.

Of course Saddam had WMD.

He proved he had them.

He used them.

He was hanged for using them.

108 posted on 03/10/2010 2:30:46 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jim 0216

“Problem is, “W” did fake the WMD thing.”

I guess what you are saying is it does not matter that all of our intel agencies were convinced for years before the war that Iraq had WMD? It does not matter that politicians such as Gore and both Clintons were convinced Sadam had WMD and were saying the same things as Bush years before he became President? It does not matter that Sadam actually used chem weapons against his own people? All that matters is Bush lied, right?


110 posted on 03/10/2010 3:17:55 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Jim 0216
Jim, educate yourself.

Democrats on WMD's

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."; Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001

We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Senator Kennedy, 9-27-2002

"We know that he has stord secret supplies of biological and chemcial weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, 9-23-2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his contin ued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

131 posted on 03/12/2010 5:52:15 AM PST by Hoboken (truth)
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